Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
I think you're being overly optimistic in this. As a new player, it's painful to see how much hate you lump on us. How can I be expected to learn, when all the people that already know are jumping into the farm groups, because they're faster/easier/more likely to result in a win? When things are said like "I am personally DONE with carrying newbs" (Nailee) it makes me want to crawl in a hole and forget grouping outside of DF because, God forbid, I hurt someone's feelings for not being an expert.
I'm sorry you feel this way, the anger people have isn't towards newbies in general.

Carrying newbs is just into relation to the new people that randomly join farm groups, these groups should only consist of experienced players that are capable of beating this content multiple times with hardly any wipes.

With mechanics that make use of all players, having someone knew that doesn't know what to do can result in wipe after wipe. A pf leader could spend an hour recruiting "farmers" which upon entering they find bonus reward, in most cases it will cause a few members to rage and effectively disband a whole group.

No one expects you to be a complete expert when your new, that's what learning parties are for.