Block first timers from Party Finder!

[WingsOfNth]

not everying can/should join pf groups if the leader states they are not welcome.

Not once did I say they should. I simply gave the reasons why they would and ways to fix the problem(Those being previous posts). Please read my posts before typing. Most of them are not long and the ones that are normally have a TLDR; as the header.

I play ona jp server...

I also play on a Japanese Serve with an alt. Obviously when I made a statement like that it's assumed that people understand I'm talking about a majority or large portion. I'm not claiming everyone does it. No community is perfect.

[Azazua_azura]

Not once did I say they should. I simply gave the reasons why they would and ways to fix the problem(Those being previous posts). Please read my posts before typing. Most of them are not long and the ones that are normally have a TLDR; as the header.



I also play on a Japanese Serve with an alt. Obviously when I made a statement like that it's assumed that people understand I'm talking about a majority or large portion. I'm not claiming everyone does it. No community is perfect.

I read them And i can tell you are EXTREMELY new to the mmo genre.
Also a bit of info, putting TLRD at the START of your posts makes it read that the posts/thread what too long and didn't read. Also summaries happen at the end. :P

[WingsOfNth]

I read them And i can tell you are EXTREMELY new to the mmo genre.

Sorry Miss. Been playing MMO's for about 12 years now with a perfect ToS record. A lot of ToS are written in Lawyer speak it's easy to think something means one thing when it actually means another. (You should see the lawyer speak in the test needed to get your license to serve alcohol xD). You can fill out a forum in game if you like to talk directly to a GMod about this question to help clear things up.

[Azazua_azura]

snipe

Ok then, if you been playing MMO for 12 years, what mmo? what highest character? because nothing you stated is what realistically happen in any mmo. also whats a gmod?? XD Seems you are describing the more MUD style then actual MMo style. but really why hate on options? And i already had discussed the reason in my first post. People know why other want in, that was never a mystery.
It is trying to get them understand they are not currently welcome is the issue. ALSO ps3 players have to log out (if they don't own a pc) to access the lodestonec on ps3 browser and i can say with out a doubt it is CUMBERSOME to do. Lodestone/mobile is NOT ps3 browser friendly.

Also most gm i know do not answer player questions about stuff, tell you to see out the active help file or ask on the forums. And they sure as hell don't have deep long conversations with players.

None of what you suggested works, or is realistic. If it did Duty finder would never have been invented in mmo, and plauers would run stuff as free companies.

What mmo have you been playing prior to ff14 that made you think what you said was in anyway realistic??

No mmo i plaued (a good 30+ and willing to list most of them) was never like which you described.

There is nothing wrong with winterluna suggestion. And i'll be honest i'm a bit miffed you insultd them, for really no reason. Mostly because you come off like you talking outa your rear.

@ noxifer

Jp don't treat non-jp players any differently. I group wuth jp players often in DF and never once been kicked for being an English gamer. JP only doesn't mean japanese players only, it just means their lang. If you can speak/type japanese they are ok with you. And i run into just as many trolls, etc from the japanese community. Thge only difference is it isn't tolerated over here and they have a 3 wipe rule, and not all too nasty. And possible have a understanding that this is a community game meant for fun.

[WingsOfNth]

Ok then, if you been playing MMO for 12 years, what mmo?

also whats a gmod??

For the most part the three big ones are Everyquest, Runescape, and FFXI. before and between those just a few no name ones untill I started FFXIV. What I call a GMod is a Game Moderator. When you post a report or a complain a GMod (Game Moderator) will contact you in game about the issue. In all my cases no sooner then 30 minute.

why hate on options?

I don't hate on option as a whole any option to help PF groups find like minded people is a good thing. But acting an option that flat out stops someone from joining outside of the Ilvl option is not a good thing. It can drive a wedge into the community with an almost tribal why of thinking. People only playing with a few select group of friend. Or screening people like criminals before being accepted into the group. In games like MUD's, TB/RTRPG's, and D&D like RPG's those are amazing feature. But not in games like FFXIV that thrive on the social aspect. The game is almost build around having to acknowledge the people around you.

ALSO ps3 players have to log out (if they don't own a pc) to access the lodestonec on ps3 browser and i can say with out a doubt it is CUMBERSOME to do. Lodestone/mobile is NOT ps3 browser friendly.

I'm sorry. it's been a long time since I've been on a PS3. You're right about the PS3's web compatibility.

Yeah, I understand why people do it. I understand that not everyone is a lazynik looking for a carry, but some feel that they just can't get a clear any other way. That's completely not true, though, and the end result on a farming party is generally the same either way. It tends toward people getting upset and the party breaking up, therefore thwarting the goals of both the farmers and of the person looking for a clear. On the odd occasions that you do actually kill it, probably 7 times out of 10 the person that wanted the clear snatches whatever loot they can, says 'thx gotta go dinner' and bails. It's frustrating on so many levels.

I understand it's frustrating but an option to block him does not solve the problem. Then you have the farmers waiting longer for the farm and you have the noob still sitting there with no clear. At least when the noob getting out of the way maybe now he'll come back for a farm to get the loot he needs.

A quote comes to mind when I think about this debate. "The rich get richer and the poor stay poor"