Block first timers from Party Finder!

[WinterLuna]

My understanding is that it's less that, more: "Get these filthy casuals out of the game! No screw ups, ever" but I can't say I see this option having any effect either way. People that paid for their clear will still get into farm parties and screw up.

You're so against this suggestion and bringing the 'wow you so elitist' argument into this, yet you have a thread up yourself about people using farm parties for carries. Hypocrisy much? You're acknowledging there's a problem but are so opposed to a solution and make me out to be the bad guy because I'm tired of rude players?

Also, your understanding is ridiculously wrong, so please attempt to understand it the way it's actually presented instead of turning this against me. Also you realise this isn't just about 'screw ups' right? It's about people using farms for clears. Again, proves you've barely read the thread or don't have a clue what we're actually asking for.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I've read every post in this extremely long thread. If I have misunderstandings, it's more likely that people haven't been perfectly clear, or because I doubt they're being completely honest.

...Also, that other post isn't really related. That one is more me complaining about the people that paid for their clears without bothering to learn the fight.

[WinterLuna]

I've read every post in this extremely long thread. If I have misunderstandings, it's more likely that people haven't been perfectly clear, or because I doubt they're being completely honest.

...Also, that other post isn't really related. That one is more me complaining about the people that paid for their clears without bothering to learn the fight.

The thing is, your responses show that you think it's a selfish or elitist request and we don't want new players in our party, when this isn't the case at all.

If someone hasn't cleared, but they /tell me, be honest, and explain how much of the fight they know, I'd glady bring them along. This isn't 'you're a noob and I don't want you in my party' like you're making out. They could wipe us multiple times, I've been there, done that, posted screenshots to prove it, and still didn't kick them.

The problem I have is not against new players, but dishonest players, or players who think it's okay to join a farm, get their clear, and leave. Hence this being an option. I'm very patient with new players. I explain fights, I join learning parties, I help others. Please get out of your mind that this is trying to discriminate new players. It's discriminating dishonest players.

You can argue with me all you like about how this request is selfish or elitist but the fact of the matter is that the people who lie, waste people's time and ruin others gaming experience are the selfish ones.

Also, your argument about people still paying for clears doesn't matter, you know yourself that this option would massively reduce this still. It would be stupid to think this would be 100% effective but it certainly saves a lot of people's time.