Block first timers from Party Finder!

[Mychael]

Well obviously previous clears would get by. This is far from the end of the game though. The sooner this is introduced the better its effectivness.

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

[Sapphic]

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

Thing is they joining parties without filling the requirements that the PF creater has asked for, it only takes a minute to ask the PF leader and explain there situation and give the party leader the choice of taking them along or not. If they agree and it's a disaster, they went in knowingly. It's polite to ask first, it's not when someone enters a party asking for clear experience and doesn't say anything until the party enters the content and the bonus tomes message shows up. How much of an impression do you tink that will leave when they find out who it is? Not to mention wasting peoples time.

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit of more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear. As I can imagine their thought process of being something like "Why should I spend time wiping on learning the content when I can just sneak into a farm party and get the others to do it for me?"

[Mychael]

It wont stop run buyers and those who get carried joining, but it would reduce it. Also it may have the knock on benefit or more players joining learning parties if they know they can't sneak into a farm party to get their clear.

I couldn't agree more. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, just that nothing could be changed in the Party Finder that would actually fix it. Bad players will continue to find ways to sneak into your group.. I see so many 'bad' people in groups and it has nothing to do with the first time clear. A lot of new (to the content) players have studied every guide available and will outperform others.

Don't get me wrong, an "Experienced Players Only" checkbox on the PF could help, but it's <10% of the problem. If only there could be a "Don't Suck" checkbox--but people would ignore it just like they do the current ones.

[Aomine1992]

Snip.

I love the point you brought up about new to content players studying and outperforming "experienced" players here are one examples..

Was having a crappy day farming ravana as the farm parties were worse then learning ones....

I tried one last party which had "Ravana ex farm pt, bonus are welcomed if they know the fight" I thought hmmm might go bad but why not try.....go in 5 of the ppl are bonus, I fear for my life lol but needless to say we killed him 5 consecutive times after clearing him the first time which has completely changed my side of this argument...I prefer the skilled and knowledgeable over just a clear....sorry but the proof is in the horrible farm parties XD

[Whiteroom]

And bad players will continue to join open groups, whether they've cleared or not. New ≠ Bad, Experienced ≠ Good.

Thank you for stating the obvious. But what does your comment have to do with the thread.