Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
Farm parties aren't even gauranteed to clear with experienced players. Should we disable pf for people that wipe a certain number of times too?

How about put their name in red every time for the rest of the day for leaving a duty?

I get it, jp onry, have mutiple clears or you are replaced after 2 strikes. Treat the pf and others like machinery, but you do it, don't demand every party do it.
What's the harm in blocking those that haven't completed the quest though. Honestly, it's remarkably easy to setup a clear party if that is your aim. Isn't forcing people to help just as bad as people not wanting to help. People who are doing something for a specific reason shouldn't have to shoulder extra problems because somebody doesn't want to take the time to set up their own clear party. It has nothing absolutely nothing to do with elitism. Time for everyone is important. Just because people need a clear does not mean that the time of those that have cleared is any less valuable.

I agree that no party is a guaranteed clear, but a farm party is going to clear 9/10 times, especially after doing it a few times. Clear parties might spend the hour just to get one, where a farm party is bound get get 3-6 in that same time. That's a far greater chance of getting a drop.

Additionally, almost anyone is willing to take 1 or 2 new people if they are aware that they are new. It's the guys who come in and don't say anything that are very frustrating to deal with.

This option would not make ALL parties farm parties. Far from it, it would make a more clear vision of what a party is looking for. PF would not be harmed by making it more defined.