Block first timers from Party Finder!

[WinterLuna]

Oh. Well, that's something of a relief. If that's so, there are checkboxes. I guess people don't utilize them enough?

People utilise them like crazy and also state in huge capital letters 'FARM ONLY, EXPERIENCED PLAYERS ONLY, NO BONUS' etc and new players who have no idea what they're doing choose to ignore it, and try to use the party for their clear. This either ends up with the new player(s) either having no idea of the fight and wasting other people's time when they're trying to farm, or they clear the fight and leave, again wasting other people's time as they have to find a replacement. This actually happened to me again today.

This option would basically enforce the checkboxes that are already in place and stop new players joining if they wanted to. The new player could still request to join the party and it would be up to the leader, but they couldn't sneak in expecting a free clear or to mess up the fight for others trying to farm.

[Lillia]

I am conflicted on how I feel upon reading this request, only because.... what if someone was carried by a seller? what if someone who was super bad at the fight and died maybe.... 5 times ended up clearing because their group was able to do it without x member? There are times when new players to content join and don't say anything but I've seen my fair share of 'experienced' players do poorly in some contents as well, some which at times were very outdated..... it just happens and it's a big gamble.

If SE does this then I suppose it's not a bad idea, it may increase success rates by a lot but I don't think that this is just restricted to "Oh I got this awful first timer in my group" as opposed to "This person just isn't experienced to the point I'd like them to be for this fight" :x

But all the same I wish you good luck with this proposal!

[WinterLuna]

I am conflicted on how I feel upon reading this request, only because.... what if someone was carried by a seller?

If SE does this then I suppose it's not a bad idea, it may increase success rates by a lot but I don't think that this is just restricted to "Oh I got this awful first timer in my group" as opposed to "This person just isn't experienced to the point I'd like them to be for this fight" :x

But all the same I wish you good luck with this proposal!

Of course, that does happen but it would happen MUCH less often with this option. Again, people may know the fight, but when it boils down to it, a player should respect a party leaders rules, and if it says 'no bonus' and they haven't cleared they just shouldn't join without asking the leader. But thank you! It's appreciated

[Whiteroom]

I am conflicted on how I feel upon reading this request, only because.... what if someone was carried by a seller? what if someone who was super bad at the fight and died maybe.... 5 times ended up clearing because their group was able to do it without x member? There are times when new players to content join and don't say anything but I've seen my fair share of 'experienced' players do poorly in some contents as well, some which at times were very outdated..... it just happens and it's a big gamble.



But all the same I wish you good luck with this proposal!

There are no "perfect fixes", you just limit what you can. And that's what this would do, limit it, and in doing so, save oh so many peoples time. Everytime a PF falls apart from this issue, 8 peoples time is wasted, if you can eliminate it from happening 9/10 times, or even 2/3 times. That's a lot of time saved.

[VanillaWafer]

Well, since you put it that way, I actually had come across with the similar issue, not long ago. People come to the party, clear, get useless bonus because reasons, grab loot, leave. Frustrating all around.

All of the grr.

Yeah, I'm in full agreement here. If you and the party intend to spend time to farm, your mind is focused on farming.

If you new players need a clear, grab some FC members or your friends. Don't ruin our flow with your looting and scooting.

[WinterLuna]

Well, since you put it that way, I actually had come across with the similar issue, not long ago. People come to the party, clear, get useless bonus because reasons, grab loot, leave. Frustrating all around.

All of the grr.

Yeah, I'm in full agreement here. If you and the party intend to spend time to farm, your mind is focused on farming.

If you new players need a clear, grab some FC members or your friends. Don't ruin our flow with your looting and scooting.

Thanks for the support all the option would be doing it enforcing what's already there to begin with. I'm not even sure why there's options in the first place when they can be ignored so easily.

[VanillaWafer]

Thanks for the support all the option would be doing it enforcing what's already there to begin with. I'm not even sure why there's options in the first place when they can be ignored so easily.

I'm a Glamour maniac. I'm currently having a rather difficult time getting people together for Urth's Fount. And even worse, I keep bumping into new players joining, clearing, looting on pieces I want, AND LEAVING. RUDE! So, I can relate very much so.

[WinterLuna]

Thanks for the support.

[WinterLuna]

Bump, 10 char.

[Azazua_azura]

Sapphic i agree with you on the adverts i really dislike the selling clutter. Though kinda blame SE they took awaway playuer bazaar and only have the MB.

But here is a thing, in df you can't control who you group with, it was suppose to be a tool for those who don't have the time to build their own parties. Party finder was more ment for like minded individuals, a party leader has full control over who gets invited, and is the fault of the party leader for not communicating with their members on what they expect and removing people who don't. Thats not being elitist, thats being a good leader. Whqat i meant aboutusing pf like DF and DF like PF is players try to control duty finder parties, when it suppose to be all inclusive. And kicking a person was really only supposed to before those who were trolling. cheating, being crude for no reason, or was disconected, @ launch we had no vote dismiss option.

People now use it to control the df group acting like psuedo leaders.

With pf people who form them or join don't communicate well or at all. Then blame eacg other for bad runs, or refuse to use it because of "not wantong to waste time with bad players" Thing is, you have full control over your party oif you are forming it. You're the party leader you set the rules and expections. If someone joins and doesn't communicate or flat out ignores you you have the right to remove them. Just gotta step up and be a leader.