Block first timers from Party Finder!

[MicahZerrshia]

That's my entire point, thank you. Some people don't seem to understand that they're the rude ones by joining the farm party. Apparently I'm the bad one for not accepting the new players.

Didn't you know...

If you want to farm or do anything that doesn't involve mindlessly and skillessly farming tomes...or worse yet, tackle content that is difficult, time consuming and something you actually have to put time and skill into, that you are an elitest.

I mean you NEED to carry people and you cannot do anything if you are not willing to help someone learn something, cause if you don't you are an elistest jerk. Just like that fancy gear that you worked for, or that mount that you got that I don't have because I haven't done the necessary content to get it, that makes you an elistest jerk too.

I mean why are all these people doing things and getting things that I cant get because I don't want to put the time into it. It should be something I can on my schedule. SE has no business creating content that I cannot complete because I work 50 hrs a week. I mean who do they think they are. They must be elitests too. Hmph

All you people make me so mad. I don't want to put the work in, and I don't have time to either. But that doesn't mean that I don't deserve that mount, or that weapon or that gear. I am a paying customer and I want that now!



That's how you do sarcasm

[Ashkendor]

Just think, lets say it catches on and the setting gets added to duty finder lets say it does,

Maybe its you all that don't know what you want, cause you are basically asking for the death of duty finder with a setting like that.

How many times do people have to clarify before they're actually listened to? Sometimes it almost feels like people that make statements like this are being deliberately obtuse because they have absolutely nothing to do with what the OP was talking about. Give us a little credit here - nobody was talking about excluding people from Duty Finder parties. That would be utterly ridiculous because DF is a random mishmash of whatever RNGesus gifts you with and we get that. The OP was asking for a Party Finder setting. You know, the thing where you're able to post your own party with your own parameters?

[Ashkendor]

Ok then explain this.

I'm simply asking for a setting on the party finder to allow players who have completed the fight only.

Tell me what it means when she said "Allow only players who completed the fight"

I bolded the important part for you. You understand that Party Finder is separate from Duty Finder, right?

It means that we want to be able to put up a farm in PF without people trying to ninja in for a clear.

You are saying I am not answering what OP said but I clearly am and you aren't, you are trying to say the total different thing.

You're blatantly ignoring the very first line of the original post:

This thread is about PARTY FINDER, NOT Duty Finder.

So block the players from entering same dungeon as you because you won a fight, like I said then that means it forces all the players who haven't done it into a duty finder dungeon.

No, it simply blocks people that don't already have a clear from joining that particular party in Party Finder. It could be another checkbox option for people wanting to put together a Party Finder with a specific type of people. Queueing for a fight in Duty Finder is completely different than putting together a Party Finder party specifically to farm that same fight.

Why don't you stop dodging that paragraph and tell me what would a setting like that do for the game?

I'm not dodging anything. You're the one that's either not reading the original post, or not understanding that Party Finder and Duty Finder are completely separate things. As to what it would do, it would let people that already know content put up a party in order to farm without worrying about people with no clue about the fight trying to sneak in and get themselves a free clear.

I am also speaking for Party finder just so you know you just cant cut out people from the game even if they haven't done it. this goes for anything duty related. sorry to burst bubble also that post was edited also so yeah.

That's just it though, those people are already excluded from farms simply by virtue of not knowing the content. This would just make it less grief all around. There's plenty of "bonus and disband" "bonus and kick" parties. Farm parties aren't the place to learn. If you want to learn, you make a learning or clear party. Plenty of veterans are willing to join those and teach, but why do we have to allow our farming runs to potentially be sabotaged by people that are just fishing for a free clear?

[Rinuko]

What stops you from stating its a farm run and are not welcoming fresh people?

[OPneedNerfs]

What stops you from stating its a farm run and are not welcoming fresh people?

What stops the fresh people from joining and keeping quiet until the "First timer bonus" message appears and the party has to disband just because 1 person lied and won't admit they lied?

[Ashkendor]

What stops you from stating its a farm run and are not welcoming fresh people?

The fact that many of those people either don't read the comments or simply don't give a crap and join anyway hoping for a carry. It's unfortunate, but saying you aren't welcoming fresh people doesn't always work to keep them away. I even take people that say they've been to 5% or what have you with a grain of salt because more often than not, "I've seen enrage" actually means "I got past phase 1 once but I was on the floor." People are willing to lie and utterly disregard 7 other people's time just to get a clear.

[Rinuko]

What stops the fresh people from joining and keeping quiet until the "First timer bonus" message appears and the party has to disband just because 1 person lied and won't admit they lied?

Nothing really. It's the way PF is designed. In PF I understand some people are not welcoming some people but on DF I get so pissed when tank+healer always leave a trial if someone is new. Yes Im looking at your Holy Stairs (dont recall full name, the trial in the end of 2.55), Rav/Bis HM, list goes on

[MentheusDreyar]

Nothing really. It's the way PF is designed. In PF I understand some people are not welcoming some people but on DF I get so pissed when tank+healer always leave a trial if someone is new. Yes Im looking at your Holy Stairs (dont recall full name, the trial in the end of 2.55), Rav/Bis HM, list goes on

Steps of Faith

But that really depends on their experiences with trials in DF tbh, i don't bother with trial roulette because i ALWAYS get abysmal groups when its either Titan, Steps, RAV/BIS and even levi... after awhile you stop caring and either stop doing it like me, or queue hoping for an even easier trial people can't really mess up on and leaving when its not rather than waste time wiping over and over, and just go fate or gather or whatever...

Honestly i find the average skill level of the player base so pathetically low it's like they expect us to carry them through the entire game :L i know it sounds harsh and selfish, but i value my time over randoms, the crappy reward for Trial Roulette doesnt help either. Really i don't mean to sound like an elitist but people really need to "git gud"

[Moonleg]

Anyways seems I wasted my time posting cause idk what you are all reading seems like you read right over that sentence that I am talking about. duty finder and Party finder it makes no difference a setting like that is out of the question bad.

peace.

Zeonx, I can't help but wonder if you are the kind of player that joins farm parties to get your first clear since you are so opposed to this. Do you truly prefer the current system where you spend an hour putting together a team, go into the duty, and then the group leader starts yelling and screaming because the bonus is active for having a new player in the group?

[WinterLuna]

Anyways seems I wasted my time posting cause idk what you are all reading seems like you read right over that sentence that I am talking about. duty finder and Party finder it makes no difference a setting like that is out of the question bad.

peace.

You do realise the option is already there? There's a setting for 'newcomers welcome' and 'serious play with high level gear.' It's just impossible to enforce because people lie and like their carries and there's no way of telling which person is new or filtering them. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.