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    Quote Originally Posted by Ercapote View Post
    SNIPPED, great list by the way
    Totally agree with this, OPTIONS are great. Not having to deal with "ninja" newbies lying through their keyboard and messing up your run is godsend. There are other party for them if they want to learn. You should be able to create exclusive party for people that play at your level. If you are not good enough, then go make a training party and get good, yes? Otherwise don't bother wasting other people time. If you are not hardcore, there is nothing wrong with that, plenty of things to do in this game. But Hardcore players should be able to completely block those who are not at the same level as them, who end up wasting the entire group time and effort. This is not a charity game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
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    Ya know, I'm thinking now that if people are caught lying through their keyboard about their progress SE should respond by permanently banning their account w/o appeal. Might help stem the tide. Brutal yes, but it would help contain a lot of this crap and maybe help them create a more JP-like community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Ya know, I'm thinking now that if people are caught lying through their keyboard about their progress SE should respond by permanently banning their account w/o appeal. Might help stem the tide. Brutal yes, but it would help contain a lot of this crap and maybe help them create a more JP-like community.
    -_-;; and it people like you who make people Like Winterluna look bad.

    Doing more harm then good here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    -_-;; and it people like you who make people Like Winterluna look bad.

    Doing more harm then good here.
    Here's the thing, I'm not sure there's any other solution but that. I'm fortunately one of the honest ones that won't join a clear group unless I have full XP (but are yet to kill it), and won't join a farm group unless I have kill XP (possibly even multikill XP). But the fact is the majority of players don't do that and lie until they're blue in the face. This same sort of stuff happens on League of Legends (as well as all the raging after 1 mistake, etc) and look how toxic the community is on that game. That's why I GENUINELY believe that permabanning w/o appeal would help stem the tide as then people will learn to get a better attitude. Would I get banned if they did that? Most likely, I have certain things that set me off. But if I did get banned in the name of improving the community so be it. I'll live and learn.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Totally agree with this, OPTIONS are great. Not having to deal with "ninja" newbies lying through their keyboard and messing up your run is godsend. There are other party for them if they want to learn. You should be able to create exclusive party for people that play at your level. If you are not good enough, then go make a training party and get good, yes? Otherwise don't bother wasting other people time. If you are not hardcore, there is nothing wrong with that, plenty of things to do in this game. But Hardcore players should be able to completely block those who are not at the same level as them, who end up wasting the entire group time and effort. This is not a charity game...
    I very much agree with what you say, BUT mind tweeking it to not sound like a jerk? kinda does more harm then good for the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    I very much agree with what you say, BUT mind tweeking it to not sound like a jerk? kinda does more harm then good for the cause.
    Sorry for the brash words, but this game has TONS of options for everyone with different play levels. And you don't have to do ALL of them to experience the game. OPTIONS are good. Not everyone play the same way. And no need to make it one big happy "we are the world" kumbaya thing, sometimes a harsh medicine is needed to give them a wake up call. They can enjoy their casuals way of playing, and no need to mingle with the hardcore - or they can get better and step it up and get good if they want to play at that level.

    No one force anyone to do it this way or that way, but if you are going to play with a group, at least they can learn what is the proper etiquette. Or they can go back do FATE, gathering and crafting and hanging out at the gold saucer. I mean gears don't really do much for those type activities, and welfare gears always being handed out every patches. Diadem is great for these casual corners, they can still get gears 150-180 without trying much, cap their esoteric for the week. And not being stressed out with "do you know your rotation??? do you understand how to maximize your DPS??? did you see the youtube video and prepare beforehand??"
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 11-13-2015 at 05:25 PM.

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