Block first timers from Party Finder!

[Ercapote]

SNIP.

and once again in this loop over and over again...

please explain to me how this is toxic in any way, shape or form?

please think thoughtfully your answer because if you tell me it will hurt new players I will stop taking you serious once and for all.

let me explain you why...

1. it's an option.
2. it's a function on PARTY FINDER (which) is an optional way to make a party.
3. It's a option meant for a "experienced players" party, meaning no (new players.)
4. It doesn't block contact/interaction with the party leader as you can still talk to them and send them a tell.
5. New players SHOULD NOT join these parties because they aren't supposed to.
6. New players can still ask for help.
7. New players can still join LEARNING/CLEAR parties that are meant to learn or go for the clear.
8. New players can freely crack up a guide and learn (like anyone else) (This guides are made by those experienced players who beat the fight and help the community by explaining them step by step how they work, this guides are made by their own experience and knowledge).
9. only affected players by this feature are BAD/TOXIC/INCONSIDERABLE people who only care about their own win and probably won't touch the fight again.

so please answer correctly because I'm tire of the loop and non-sense. HOW IS THIS FUNCTION TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM?



PS: I honestly think "Azazua_azura" is right, looking at your post now, I do say you only read the title of the Threat and Misinterpreted the Idea of OP.

and this is me trying to make some sense on your attitude and replies to not make a fool of yourself "completely" or "more", but I THINK you THINK this function is to block new players for the USE of party finder. IT'S NOT. It's an option within the PT FINDER only when you are creating YOUR OWN PARTY so new player cannot join YOUR SPECIFIC PT allow farm pt to consist only of experience players and FARM.

new players are still able to use PT FINDER, no one is block from that privilege.

I hope that puts some light on your way because you are seriously lost.

[Ercapote]

bump/10char

[Luvbunny]

SNIPPED, great list by the way

Totally agree with this, OPTIONS are great. Not having to deal with "ninja" newbies lying through their keyboard and messing up your run is godsend. There are other party for them if they want to learn. You should be able to create exclusive party for people that play at your level. If you are not good enough, then go make a training party and get good, yes? Otherwise don't bother wasting other people time. If you are not hardcore, there is nothing wrong with that, plenty of things to do in this game. But Hardcore players should be able to completely block those who are not at the same level as them, who end up wasting the entire group time and effort. This is not a charity game...

[Paladinleeds]

Snipped because character limit

Ya know, I'm thinking now that if people are caught lying through their keyboard about their progress SE should respond by permanently banning their account w/o appeal. Might help stem the tide. Brutal yes, but it would help contain a lot of this crap and maybe help them create a more JP-like community.

[Azazua_azura]

Ya know, I'm thinking now that if people are caught lying through their keyboard about their progress SE should respond by permanently banning their account w/o appeal. Might help stem the tide. Brutal yes, but it would help contain a lot of this crap and maybe help them create a more JP-like community.

-_-;; and it people like you who make people Like Winterluna look bad.

Doing more harm then good here.

[Paladinleeds]

-_-;; and it people like you who make people Like Winterluna look bad.

Doing more harm then good here.

Here's the thing, I'm not sure there's any other solution but that. I'm fortunately one of the honest ones that won't join a clear group unless I have full XP (but are yet to kill it), and won't join a farm group unless I have kill XP (possibly even multikill XP). But the fact is the majority of players don't do that and lie until they're blue in the face. This same sort of stuff happens on League of Legends (as well as all the raging after 1 mistake, etc) and look how toxic the community is on that game. That's why I GENUINELY believe that permabanning w/o appeal would help stem the tide as then people will learn to get a better attitude. Would I get banned if they did that? Most likely, I have certain things that set me off. But if I did get banned in the name of improving the community so be it. I'll live and learn.

[Azazua_azura]

Totally agree with this, OPTIONS are great. Not having to deal with "ninja" newbies lying through their keyboard and messing up your run is godsend. There are other party for them if they want to learn. You should be able to create exclusive party for people that play at your level. If you are not good enough, then go make a training party and get good, yes? Otherwise don't bother wasting other people time. If you are not hardcore, there is nothing wrong with that, plenty of things to do in this game. But Hardcore players should be able to completely block those who are not at the same level as them, who end up wasting the entire group time and effort. This is not a charity game...

I very much agree with what you say, BUT mind tweeking it to not sound like a jerk? kinda does more harm then good for the cause.

[Luvbunny]

I very much agree with what you say, BUT mind tweeking it to not sound like a jerk? kinda does more harm then good for the cause.

Sorry for the brash words, but this game has TONS of options for everyone with different play levels. And you don't have to do ALL of them to experience the game. OPTIONS are good. Not everyone play the same way. And no need to make it one big happy "we are the world" kumbaya thing, sometimes a harsh medicine is needed to give them a wake up call. They can enjoy their casuals way of playing, and no need to mingle with the hardcore - or they can get better and step it up and get good if they want to play at that level.

No one force anyone to do it this way or that way, but if you are going to play with a group, at least they can learn what is the proper etiquette. Or they can go back do FATE, gathering and crafting and hanging out at the gold saucer. I mean gears don't really do much for those type activities, and welfare gears always being handed out every patches. Diadem is great for these casual corners, they can still get gears 150-180 without trying much, cap their esoteric for the week. And not being stressed out with "do you know your rotation??? do you understand how to maximize your DPS??? did you see the youtube video and prepare beforehand??"