Quote Originally Posted by WingsOfNth View Post
(Lootrules are a moot point cause they only really matter in statics. People just don't trust randoms in PF with lootmaster).
Maybe not; I know I wouldn't trust many people with it. But there's also the "Greed only" loot rule, in case someone going as healer or tank is really after the caster boots, and you want to prevent any casters in the party to just Need on them and prevent the person (who switched role to accomodate the party) from having a chance at them. Something that is extra annoying in DF, since people are a lot more anonymous and thus more likely to Need on something if they can.

And no, everything can't be done in DF -- you'll notice I specified discussing things prior to going in? That's one of the bigger issues. Most duties have a time limit of 60-90 minutes. Not only are people very uninterested in talking things through in DF, or even communicating beyond "hello", "****ing noobs", "screw you, I quit" and "gg bb", but any such discussion would take a chunk out of the time you have to kill whichever baddie you're going after.

No, in general the MMO community isn't noob friendly (and from what I've heard, JP servers tend to be not very non-JP friendly). But PF is there to find like-minded people. It has been said that if you join a PF listing, you're entering an agreement to follow the rules set up in said PF listing, and breaking those rules after that (by, for example, not having cleared the instance in particular) is grounds for reporting you for distruption of gameplay. Not to mention you're highly likely to get blacklisted by at least a couple of the other people in that party. Is that really worth the attempt to sneak in?