Block first timers from Party Finder!

[StrejdaTom]

Farm parties aren't even gauranteed to clear with experienced players. Should we disable pf for people that wipe a certain number of times too?

How about put their name in red every time for the rest of the day for leaving a duty?

I get it, jp onry, have mutiple clears or you are replaced after 2 strikes. Treat the pf and others like machinery, but you do it.

Why are you talking about disabling PF lol?
There would be "Ravana Extreme Farm Party" with "People who cleared this duty" option checked, anyone who cleared Ravana Extreme would be able to join, anyone who haven't would have the party gray, so they won't be able to join it.

You are completely exaggerating.

No one is entitled to get carried by people who put their effort to clear some duty to be able to farm it unless they want to help.

EDIT:
People who get into farm parties without clear and without saying anything to party leader in advance are getting kicked and blacklisted anyways, the only difference between what we have now and what we would have with special option is, that party leaders wouldn't have to bother with them and waste their time.

[Kallera]

Why are you talking about disabling PF lol?
There would be "Ravana Extreme Farm Party" with "People who cleared this duty" option checked, anyone who cleared Ravana Extreme would be able to join, anyone who haven't would have the party gray, so they won't be able to join it.

You are completely exaggerating.

I just really don't like trusting some of these changes in this thread and others as it sounds like closing ranks around content to the exclusion of others, there is nothing social, there is only performance.

It honestly doesn't seem--right.

[karateorangutang]

I just really don't like trusting some of these changes as it sounds like closing ranks around content to the exclusion of others, there is nothing social, there is only performance.

It honestly doesn't seem right.

This happens already though. Additionally it happens with great drama because people will straight up lie and say they've cleared it until you get into the fight and get that magical bonus tome message. If anything it would reduce the drama involved in farm parties. Again, it's not like it couldn't be disabled if someone asked and everyone in the farm was cool with it.

I know i've cleared in farm parties, but I've always asked ahead of time. I've been turned down before, but it's usually the other way around. Especially if I mention that I've done my research on the fight.

[WinterLuna]

I just really don't like trusting some of these changes as it sounds like closing ranks around content to the exclusion of others, there is nothing social, there is only performance.

It honestly doesn't seem right.

Sigh.. It's the exclusion of others when they SHOULD be excluded. Why is it wrong that some players want to farm something without having to carry a new player and watching them leave afterwards, or them not having a clue what to do? Players are allowed to have their own game time without being forced to help every single person they come across.

The whole 'social' aspect vanished as soon as people started ignoring players party finder rules and disrespecting players by wasting their time or using their groups for a clear. You're completely misunderstanding the point of this thread.

Besides, you know this happens anyway right? People disband groups as soon as they see the bonus message. All this is doing it removing the inconvenience.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Why are you talking about disabling PF lol?
There would be "Ravana Extreme Farm Party" with "People who cleared this duty" option checked, anyone who cleared Ravana Extreme would be able to join, anyone who haven't would have the party gray, so they won't be able to join it.

You are completely exaggerating.

No one is entitled to get carried by people who put their effort to clear some duty to be able to farm it unless they want to help.

EDIT:
People who get into farm parties without clear and without saying anything to party leader in advance are getting kicked and blacklisted anyways, the only difference between what we have now and what we would have with special option is, that party leaders wouldn't have to bother with them and waste their time.

Up until this post, I agreed with the OP and I still do. And I'm one of those players who haven't cleared most of coil, and none of Alex Savage. But this post helped me to see how something like this would be beneficial to the excluded player. No one likes to be blacklisted. Maybe the person joining had good intentions and knew the fight well enough. But joining without saying anything is still a jerk thing to do and worthy of a blacklist. Being automatically excluded like this protects that player as well.