So, if you join a party specifically to farm, you don't mind someone joining that has no clue what's going on? I mean, don't get me wrong, I've helped tons of people with clears on content ranging anywhere from Titan EX to T13 (not just people I know either; my static used to run learning party nights every Saturday in the weeks leading up to HW) but there's times when I just want to set it up and knock it down with a minimum of fuss. Why is it such an awful thing that, for a couple of hours, I want to accomplish something to further my own goals? I play this game for my own enjoyment. If I help, I'd like to think that I'm allowed to do so by choice rather than because someone snuck into my party and attempted to strongarm me into it by not speaking up when we ask who's new.
I'd say that expecting to be let into every single party regardless of your experience is the epitome of the "me me me, I'm all that's important" special snowflake brand of thinking. If you've been to 2% but don't have the clear because pugs suck, then by all means PM the party leader. Many of us understand and are willing to give you a shot to prove yourself. If we clear smoothly we'll go on to farm. If you lied about knowing the fight and you proceed to wipe three times to the first mechanic though, expect to get kicked. Lying like that is basically shooting yourself in the foot. That's seven people on the server that are a lot less likely to help you clear. I for one end up blacklisting people like that. If you can't be honest with me, then I don't want you in my party.This relentless intolerance and the whole "me me me, I'm all that's important" mentality is really corroding whatever sense of community even still exists in MMOs anymore... slowly but surely.
So is making a blanket statement calling people selfish for not necessarily wanting to help/carry 24/7.I know people will immediately point to the worst possible examples they can think of to justify it... as though every situation is like that... and it's really disingenuous.