Block first timers from Party Finder!

[Sapphic]

True, but it would still filter out a lot of players trying to sneak in for a clear and then leaving. A bad player is a bad player, and there's nothing anyone can do. But there's a difference between a bad player and someone sneaking into a group for a free clear and/or the loot.

Bad players can get better with a bit of self motivation. Those who sneak in like that are just douches. Simple as.

Just to clarify, I'm all in favor of adding this option.

As I don't join farm groups I couldn't care less about the whims and woes that accompany said task. If I had to put forth an opinion on the subject it would be take what you get and deal with it or don't. I don't get the best of circumstances with players as a healer but I don't come here looking for a band aid. The problem is inexperience so teach them. You don't want newbs? Once they learn they won't be. Then you all can farm, farm, farm until you're blue in the face. You're either part of the solution or part of the problem. A check box doesn't solve the problem it just seems like it because people can't be bothered to, you know, act like people.

You're asking others to treat said players with respect, yet where is the respect from them for joining farm parties with close to or zero experience of the fight and wasting everyones time instead? Respect is a two way street and joining farm parties expecting everyone else to be your teacher b*tch is as far from being respectful as you can get. Theres nothing stopping those players, except their own laziness from starting their own learning party, It may take a bit longer to fill and it is not unusual for some who have said content on farm to jump in and help.

Looks at it from both sides, not just one.

I DO teach them. That was the first thing I said. The majority of people joining the farms aren't asking to be taught. They are keeping quiet in hope nobody will notice and can get a carry. So it's my obligation to teach every new member that joins each one of my farm parties, so I can successfully farm? Don't be ridiculous. The problem is the players who can't read a party finder rule or decide to be rude and selfish and ignore it. I'm not a mentor. I shouldn't have to teach everyone.

This.

Players teach when they want to. Not when others expect it. This is the reason PF was added so you could set flags and comments to look for like minded players, Farm parties look for people that are proficient with the content that clearing (barring the odd wipe due to sometimes differences in strats) not to teach. Theres the options to state that first timers are welcome, that they are happy to teach. As I said before, if there isn't a Party Finder set up which suits an individuals needs there is nothing stopping them from creating their own PF with their own requirements.

To be fair all they are doing is hurting themselves, as majority I know if that happens to their party is blacklist the person who did it. Which reduces the amount of parties they could join every time they lie their way into trying to get carried. As you cannot join a PF if the creater has you blacklisted.