Quote Originally Posted by Kathyz View Post
Funny thing is when i enter in "farm groups" we wipe more than in a first clear
My experience has been different, can usually get 4+ clears before someone has to go, as opposed to with a learning/clear party. Those seem like nothing but constant wipes with people who give up after the 4th or 5th attempt, and if we do beat it it's almost immediately disbanded. That's why I've started making my own clear parties when there's none open.