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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by shape View Post
    This is why snipping only part of peoples posts should be banned, the point of putting a must have minimum dps to join simply replaces must have this item lvl and this much exp, list goes on. i'm all for letting as many people try to do content as the next person but if they keep failing to meet the min requirements i'm not going to let the people who are meeting them be held back.

    to make this very clear for you Jay I do not consent to parser in duty finder, that is where any level of play style is allowed, not in PF where 90% of the groups want at least ok dps and a certain amount of exp.
    This exclusion you talk about its already happening on a much worse scale than when I played wow years ago, we also had parser(recount) and groups asking for min dps req back then and it was better compared to how allot of FFXIV PF requirements are.
    If things have gotten worse its the new type of playerbase vs the old. LMFAO


    If I where to not doing my job(tank) in my raid and was asked to leave I would understand, how is this different for a dps who joins PF, who did not meet min dps req for Ravanna ex, feel free to tell me the actual min dps req here i heard its 600 to 700, give or take either way .so yes next time you snip someones post make sure you read the whole post not come across as stupid. ( oh wait its the forums)


    FYI welcome to endgame and raiding mentality where fair rule sets are put in place.
    Um, OK...I never once mentioned Duty Finder when referring to your post. I snipped your passage because of stupid character restrictions on this forum. I read your post, which included your first sentence "outside of Duty Finder." How in the world did you come up with all of this shit you just posted? I made a joke, man. I thought the part about the flameshield would have made that inherently noticeable but apparently I was wrong. You posted something that very clearly showed you wanted parsing outside of the Duty Finder. Many people in this forum will attack you because of that.....

    I know of the exclusion. I actually play this game too. I don't get excluded, though. So I wouldn't know anything about being turned away from content.

    Your join date is Jan 2013, but you've only had 56 posts here. I was trying to do you a solid by warning you that people will attack you quite maliciously on this forum because of your parser viewpoint. But if you want to throw personal insults about my intelligence at me when your reading comprehension is subpar at best, then whatever have a good one pal.

    FYI, check my lodestone. I "endgame" quite regularly.

    And here, I'll go the extra mile to cut/copy/paste/edit my response so I can leave your entire, ridiculous comment in the quote box. Happy?

    Edit: Oh my word you've added some extra idiocy to your reply after the initial posting. I wonder why? Character limitations couldn't have had anything to do with it, right? I better make sure to quote this properly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shape View Post
    It took me a week to get Ex Bizmark down because of 1 or 2 people not meeting dps req in most party finders(yes many of the party leaders used ACT) one run had bard pulling less than 300 dps, in your world he would be allowed to continue to screw everyone else over..
    I mean, who's response were you even reading? In my world? I AGREED WITH YOU....If any bard in party was doing 300 DPS in 3.0 content he/she would be dropped quicker than you dropping the ball responding to my post.

    And I'm stupid. Rich.
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    Last edited by JayCommon; 09-18-2015 at 11:52 PM.

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    I see no problem with adding a "clear required" checkbox to prevent folks from joining a party if they do not yet have the clear.

    If a person believes they have the experience and equipment necessary to succeed in a farm party even if they don't have the win, they can /tell the party leader and ask that an exception be made in their case. The leader may or may not agree, but it's still better than trying to sneak into a party for the win and hope you don't get noticed.

    Farm parties are not intended for players looking to get their first win, and allowing tools to prevent this from happening in no way stops players from forming learning parties.

    If there's anyone in this thread who makes a habit of joining farm parties for their clears and objects to this for that reason - yer doin' it wrong.
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    This is my bad for taking your post as aggressive, to be fair 95% of my posts where i've tried to post anything constructive or go the middle ground gets the aggressive or stupid responses. which is why I rarely post

    i've had people snip parts of my post that explain both sides with my opinion+ explanation and they focus on the bad side and use only that in their post. This really does Piss Me Off when it happens.

    Anyway apologies for seeing red Jay Common
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    Last edited by shape; 09-19-2015 at 02:40 AM.

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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by shape View Post
    This is my bad for taking your post as aggressive, to be fair 95% of my posts where i've tried to post anything constructive or go the middle ground gets the aggressive or stupid responses. which is why I rarely post

    i've had people snip parts of my post that explain both sides with my opinion+ explanation and they focus on the bad side and use only that in their post. This really does Piss Me Off when it happens.

    Anyway apologies for seeing red Jay Common
    No worries, I probably got more defensive then needed as well. I understand your frustration, as I too have had my words twisted by respondents on this forum far too often. I do think we share the sentiments essentially when it comes to this topic, though.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Y'all just reminded me of why I dislike pugging and refuse to jump in an existing group in party finder.
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    Bad title, good idea.

    But, it's only a good idea if the "newcomers unwelcome" box is grayed out if you or anyone currently in your party has not yet cleared the content. Even I've seen those "farm" parties where the leader hasn't cleared yet and is trying to trick people into carrying them =\
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    I do like this idea, tbh. It segregates the community even further. Most farm groups I've seen or have joined were incapable of handling the content entirely, so I don't see this killing any problems. It'll just create new ones instead.
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    Can we also get a asshole button that kicks the aholes that join DF expecting new players to go at there flow? i'm being sarcastic :P but really if you make a PF can't you just get all your members from a FC or a friend that has friends in a FC?
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    Last edited by SakuraMidori; 09-19-2015 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    but really if you make a PF can't you just get all your members from a FC or a friend that has friends in a FC?
    No.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    Can we also get a asshole button that kicks the aholes that join DF expecting new players to go at there flow?

    I second that... no sarcasm xD
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    I know my english its bad, don't bully me T_T.

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