Lalafell Forehead Gem Accessory vs Garlean Eye?

[Anonymoose]

I guess what happened is that Cid and a few others (namely Biggs and Wedge) have worked together but never had a company (the Ironworks).

It might have been the [Midas nan] Garlond Ironworks, now that I think about it - an official Imperial company (if that name existed at all back then). Cid worked closely with the Garlean leadership, like his father, advancing their war machina and was sickened by how it was actually put to use. His conscience made him defect to Eorzea in hopes of advancing their technology far enough to not be helplessly mowed down by his own creations. Building the [Cid no-longer-nan] Garlond Ironworks in Eorzea, they adopted the motto "Freedom through Technology" to reflect that they would never allow their work to promote tyranny.

"The Elezen once claimed sole dominion over Eorzea, their presence predating that of the other races, and, as such, developed a heightened sense of honor and pride." comes from the ARR Races section. Is this a statement that is continued by the Elezen or is a word of god statement?

It's canon misinformation - an SE-sanctioned lie told to you from the point of view of as far as Eorzeans know and the Elezen claim. The lore team for FFXIV saw that many games contain books, NPCs, and system interactions that imply this impossible omniscience about the game's world, and they didn't want Eorzea to be like that. Sometimes a revelation is meant to clear up an unknown and help you understand, sometimes you're getting a false prophet telling you what's apparent to them at the time.

A probable example, imho, is the Thaumaturge quest where the Brothers Thaum take you to learn about dark magicks first-hand, and they've got you at Thal's Respite reading their book on the void and all the bats swoop down and they're like, KILL THE BATS! THEY'RE VOIDSSSEEENT! and the fighting draws the attention of these slugs in the water and they're like, KILL THE SLUGS! THEY'RE VOIDSSSEEENT!

One that's actually confirmed, some Lamia freed from Dalamud wreckage end up in Sastasha HM and their names show Lominsans assuming that they, like Madison, were over-Drowned people because they know nothing about Allagan technology.

[dejiko_san]

If no lalas post theirs before I come home from work, I'll get you a screenshot of my character. The gem is similar but ours is more round instead of oval. We also have a bigger decoration around it.

[LineageRazor]

[/I]One that's actually confirmed, some Lamia freed from Dalamud wreckage end up in Sastasha HM and their names show Lominsans assuming that they, like Madison, were over-Drowned people because they know nothing about Allagan technology.

That's interesting! Where is this confirmed? I always assumed that these Lamia WERE over-Drowned, victims of Leviathan just like all the squid-faces. Either Leviathan knew what Allagan Lamia were like and modeled the Drowned Wenches after them, or it was simply coincidence that their particular mutation happens to resemble Lamia.

Actually, now that I think about it, isn't it also possible that Allagan Lamia ARE created from over-Tempering, or a similar process? We know next to nothing about how Lamia are created, and the Allagans WERE doing a lot of mucking about with Primals...

Allagans: I wonder what happens if we dunk this woman in Primal juice, FOR SCIENCE? Ooh, a Lamia! Cool.

Leviathan: For your failure, wench, I'm going to Drown you again! Ooh, a Lamia! Cool.

[ExKage]

One that's actually confirmed, some Lamia freed from Dalamud wreckage end up in Sastasha HM and their names show Lominsans assuming that they, like Madison, were over-Drowned people because they know nothing about Allagan technology.

Oh, OH! I see what you mean now. The game names the Lamia as Over-drowned people as a case of the misinformed because those people just -assume- they must be overdrowned because they have no idea what the Allagan technology is. And I didn't even make the connection that the misinformation was being presented through the game hud text and not (for some reason my perception was this) an NPC telling us "oh those overdrowned!!! people!"

[Anonymoose]

That's interesting! Where is this confirmed?

Funny enough, in the same interview question I was paraphrasing a few posts ago, lol.

In many games, NPCs tell you exactly what’s going on in the world. They just know everything about the lore and everything is true. In the real world, people don’t always have the answers, even though they talk like they know what they’re talking about. We wanted Eorzea to have that feel, as well. There are lots of different theories, but not everyone has the right answers. People sometimes assume things that are relative to their own lives; if a Lominsan sees these Lamia with their scimitars and they think pirate, what else could it be, for them? They don’t know about Allagan technology.

The mileage we get out of those interviews on the forums is amazing <3

Isn't it also possible that Allagan Lamia ARE created from over-Tempering, or a similar process?

In theory, it definitely could as we head towards the fringe. Before 3.00 kind of downplayed the significance of the six primals being elementally aspected, I had thought it possible that perhaps Allag created Lamia by tapping into the Essence of the Whorl, so to speak - the essence of the Land from which Leviathan was shaped with Sahagin folklore and expectations (hell, to take it further, I thought perhaps the sahagin were created that way). There are lots of details which remain unknown, though Occam's Razor has a pretty good track record even in FFXIV, nowadays.

And I didn't even make the connection that the misinformation was being presented through the game hud text

Before I was positive that the system text, too, could reflect in-world assumptions, the mob Deepvoid Deathmouse used to bug me so bad.