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    Shields & Parrying in 1.19

    Hi,

    Since 1.19 dropped I haven't seen a single parry while playing my Gladiator with a shield equipped. Today I decided to unequip my shield and go fight some stuff and in the very first fight I got two parries (and many in the following fights). I am not the only one who has noticed this, as other gladiators I have talked to have confirmed the lack of parries while wearing a shield.

    Has anyone seen a parry that didn't come from Foresight while they were wearing a shield? Pretty sure this is a bug, and a pretty big one at that.

    -edit- even with Foresight 2 + Axemanship and like 3 mobs (2 lance, 1 pgl) beating on me I haven't seen a parry.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 10-08-2011 at 07:45 PM.

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    enemy miss = parry & evade now work
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    enemy miss = parry & evade now work
    Excuse me? Can you type this again in English?

    -edit- I should clarify: I realize that evades are reported as misses in the combat log right now. Parries, however, are not. This is very easy to test. Just load up foresight 2 and go fight some stuff with a shield equipped.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 10-08-2011 at 05:15 PM.

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    So what you're saying is, now you can parry only when you don't have a shield equipped? If you have one, you only get blocks?

    Interesting. Given how gimped shield abilities are now, it might be a viable option to grab Marauder skills and go shieldless with a Glad now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon View Post
    So what you're saying is, now you can parry only when you don't have a shield equipped? If you have one, you only get blocks?

    Interesting. Given how gimped shield abilities are now, it might be a viable option to grab Marauder skills and go shieldless with a Glad now.
    This is exactly what I am saying. With how low the rate of blocks is versus same-or-higher level enemies it almost seems worth it to drop the 4 shield abilities (aegis, deflection, outmaneuver, war drum) and just load defensive stuff from other classes with an empty off-hand. The biggest loss is probably war drum considering how weak the shield abilities are right now.
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    deflection, aegis boon 2, & outmaneuver is all you need instead of depending on "auto-block".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwestro View Post
    deflection, aegis boon 2, & outmaneuver is all you need instead of depending on "auto-block".
    All three of these abilities depend on auto-block. Have you played Gladiator since the patch or are you just typing words at the screen?

    -edit- besides which this has NOTHING to do with PARRY NOT WORKING WITH A SHIELD EQUIPPED

    p.s. Aegis, et al, depend on your auto-block rate. Like completely. They just alter the effect of your blocks.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 10-08-2011 at 07:41 PM.

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    Bumping this since I made the thread at like 4 am whoops
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    enemy miss = parry & evade now work
    Completely false on the parry side. I've parried since 1.19 on my Marauder and it's the same as always. The damage dealt is much lower and the parry animation triggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Completely false on the parry side. I've parried since 1.19 on my Marauder and it's the same as always. The damage dealt is much lower and the parry animation triggers.
    Yes. Parries are reported accurately, evades are reported as misses. You can't parry with a shield equipped right now but I'm pretty certain evade is working.
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