WHM dps VS. SCH dps

[Nihility]

white mage actually does more dps than scholar by a decent margin
but
white mage dps spells are far less mana efficient causing them to deplete mana pool quickly and also several scholar spells have 100% accuracy making it more reliable vs high end targets

and astro dps is the worst of the 3

If your choosing which one should do the support dps it's scholar
that's really as simple as it gets

[Khyan]

In fact, even on single target, SCH>WHM in my opinion. Burst damage is nice but not really so long as WHM. I can stay around 1200 as SCH during 30seconds with dissipation on a dummy, and then it's 850-900 with pentamelded accessories with accuracy (So, I don't have the maximum Mind I can get).

If you compare HPS instead of DPS, I think it will be more WHM>SCH then.

And AST is and must be the worst of the three in matter of dps, because of cards.

Personnally, when you play Whitemage, I don't think you should worry about your dps but your overheal%/where you can solo heal/mana management and where you need synergy with your co-healer.
I think you can dps a little if you don't need to heal or mechanics need specific damage (Stone I is usefull during A3S fight (add phase) for example). Depend of your co-healer as well. If he wants to heal then you can both heal & dps.
But during raids, whitemage is the main healer, I think it's more a scholar job to maximise dps.

Play as you wish. The synergy with your co-healer is essential though.

[Jonnycbad]

I feel like SCH does more damage realistically for most fights due to being able to Ruin II while moving/avoiding mechanics, while WHM needs to cast their nukes (except Aero). Also, SCH has far fewer acc requirements. Holy is nice, but the range sucks(gotta get close)and also puts the WHM in danger of being hit with AoEs.

[Rawrz]

Just the short encounter period for now. Maths @.@

Im gonna say WHM. Aero is the Ruin II of WHM. 6 seconds and it deals more damage than Ruin II. If you're forced to move. Typically a WHM has 2 Dots to throw up, one that is pretty spammable (Aero II), and a very heavy hitting Stone III. Think about it. Every time you broil, a whm is dealing 40 more potency. 4 broils, 160 potency difference right there.

If you're cutting into your GCD its a DPS loss.
15 Seconds left until boss is invulnerable:
Aero 150 (only 4 ticks)
Fluid Arua 150
swiftcast
Aero II: 250
Assize: 300
Stone 3:210x3
Total:1480

Bio:200
Energy Drain:150
Aero: 125 (only 3 ticks)
Energy Drain: 150
Swiftcast
Broil:170
Energy Drain: 150
Broil x2: 170x2=340
Total:1285

[Khyan]

If you're cutting into your GCD its a DPS loss.
15 Seconds left until boss is invulnerable:
Aero 150 (only 4 ticks)
Fluid Arua 150
swiftcast
Aero II: 250
Assize: 300
Stone 3:210x3
Total:1480

Bio:200
Energy Drain:150
Aero: 125 (only 3 ticks)
Energy Drain: 150
Swiftcast
Broil:170
Energy Drain: 150
Broil x2: 170x2=340
Total:1285

If your scholar/whm dps like that as burst damage, it's really bad anyway. Your math is not accurate then.

[Rawrz]

If your scholar/whm dps like that as burst damage, it's really bad anyway. Your math is not accurate then.

I said you had a 15 second window to hit as hard as you can. Using 1 OGCD skill during GCD will result in 1 less GCD. Tell me the rotation youd use for both and no, you cannot sneak in a OGCD before the boss disappears.

Edit: Also Johnny I was speaking Short tem, so shadowflare would be bad unless you managed to place it before hand, :O which would give SCH an advantage. (But with Presence of mind precast it might be close again xD)

[mp-please]

If you're cutting into your GCD its a DPS loss.
15 Seconds left until boss is invulnerable:
Aero 150 (only 4 ticks)
Fluid Arua 150
swiftcast
Aero II: 250
Assize: 300
Stone 3:210x3
Total:1480

Casting dots when you want burst damage is a dps loss, mainly if you're using PoM. Using PoM reduces stone III cast to 1.92 seconds which allow you to cast 7-8 stones during the whole 15sec period, that's roughly 1600 potency mashing 1 button compared to what you wrote.

Also your rotation is wrong. It's aero III > aero > aero II > fluid aura > PoM > stone III ~ > dots are only refreshed once PoM wears off, swiftcast is better used on either medica II or to refresh aero III. Just because aero III is aoe don't underestimate it's power on single target.

[zuzu-bq]

Why did this thread became a thing again?

[Ercapote]

Why did this thread became a thing again?

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[MyaValentine]

I was asking for some information regarding a discussion between me and my girl, if this threat hurts your emotions, I'm sorry but it wasn't what we intended, just basically asking for more experienced people on the matter which we got what we wanted and we are greatly appreciated to everyone, so if this offend you just know that there's no hate intentions on this and + everyone here where pretty nice so I don't understand where are you coming from with your post any ways have a good day thanks all...

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