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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
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    3. Losing your cross server GC regulars.
    at being said, how big of a con this is depends on how you weigh it against que times and the ability to que with friends.)
    Agree but always think about if you REALLY want to play with friends change GC if u want faster queue try as premade (6-8people) takes less than 10min. Yes 16 Pugs can drag you down but a 8man premade makes a huge difference against 24 Pugs I rarely lose when I go with a premade even if the other 16 people arent that great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    4. Possible one sided competitions.

    long usual essay
    Not really lol. As one who partakes, this is already the case. Dropping GC's just means everyone gets an equal chance to play with or against the premade(s).
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    I only ask this of square enix if they remove GC restriction: PLEASE LET US Q AS 24. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Agree but always think about if you REALLY want to play with friends change GC if u want faster queue try as premade (6-8people) takes less than 10min. Yes 16 Pugs can drag you down but a 8man premade makes a huge difference against 24 Pugs I rarely lose when I go with a premade even if the other 16 people arent that great.
    The problem with changing GC's is that there's a big penalty to changing. Resetting your rank is kinda awful, especially after Lvl 40 when the exp requirements shoot up dramatically. This might not be the case if SE removed the rank resets (especially given that your PvP rank is not tied to your actual GC rank), but that would make GC stacking a bigger problem than it already is. I'm honestly not sure which is the better option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Not really lol. As one who partakes, this is already the case. Dropping GC's just means everyone gets an equal chance to play with or against the premade(s).
    It is, yes. I guess better wording would be "increased chance of one sided competitions." I did say "possible," though. We couldn't know for sure until it happens. I'm just pointing out the possibility that a dramatic increase in Pre-mades could make things extra difficult for PUGs. After all, we can't expect everyone to sign up in Pre-mades. There will always be solo quers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    SE already said in the live letter they consider removing the GC restriction but it isnt so easy as some people think.
    How can you not preface this with SE screwed up and kept GC's from 2.0. Fine they have achievements in 2.0 lead GC to X wins get an ugly mount. 3.0 add new map get new achievements win X amount of games. The excuse of technical issues you make me want to

    They could also make another que option where you just can't get wins for grand companies. Keep it separate from the roulette and go one step farther allow 24 man alliances and no ilvl sync. Are you telling it would be really that much more effort.

    Conspiracy theory incoming: They have some serious issues with the Duty finder and I think they use the Grand Companies as a crutch to hide deficiencies.

    I have not felt so betrayed by a development team since 1.0 At least in other games like LoL or Warcraft you get better answers and effort by the development team. Even if it is wrong or something you hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    Not really lol. As one who partakes, this is already the case. Dropping GC's just means everyone gets an equal chance to play with or against the premade(s).
    It will mean more premades cause people like me who prefer to solo queue atm strictly because of the crap queues premade parties have, will actually be more inclined to join premades if you don't have to wait 40 minutes for a match as one like like you do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    Conspiracy theory incoming: They have some serious issues with the Duty finder and I think they use the Grand Companies as a crutch to hide deficiencies.
    I'm not sure this is a conspiracy theory so much as it is a obvious truth that SE has been blatantly ignoring for a while now. DF is clearly buggy, even in PvE. It's average wait times are consistently miscalculated, and it occasionally gets locked, keeping someone in que limbo that they can only break out of by re-queing or queing for something else. SE's probably just scared to admit there's a problem because, after their original 1.0 fiasco (and SE's reputation in general) they're likely terrified they'll lose player confidence if they show signs of weakness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I'm not sure this is a conspiracy theory so much as it is a obvious truth that SE has been blatantly ignoring for a while now. DF is clearly buggy, even in PvE. It's average wait times are consistently miscalculated, and it occasionally gets locked, keeping someone in que limbo that they can only break out of by re-queing or queing for something else. SE's probably just scared to admit there's a problem because, after their original 1.0 fiasco (and SE's reputation in general) they're likely terrified they'll lose player confidence if they show signs of weakness.
    It was clearly obvious what the whole problem is when one visits the '18th Floor'... none of them up there were Lalafells. And everybody knows... a group without a Lalafell has a higher chance of being a fail group. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    It will mean more premades cause people like me who prefer to solo queue atm strictly because of the crap queues premade parties have, will actually be more inclined to join premades if you don't have to wait 40 minutes for a match as one like like you do now.
    This is actually a problem. Try premades... duos normally ok, sometimes more buggy and 'limbo ques' than solo. Trio... mmmkay, getting over average wait time more and more. 4+ every que is going over average wait time.

    Remove GCs, first 72 that tetris together and poof... in they go would be a whole lot faster than trying to tetris premade 2-8 player groups of all same banner, not once, not twice... but three times. Is it really a wonder why df feels broken?
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