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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23

    Which tank generates more hate/aggro?

    So imagine there are 3 tanks in the same party (warrior, paladin and dark knight), all of the same level, ilevel and gear, all full STR specced and with dps accessories. All in their tanking stance and doing their best aggro combos. But nobody uses Provoke. Which tank will be on top of enmity list in this situation?
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Is there one mob or twenty? Because that matters.

    Also: a DRK out of mp is pretty useless for enmity.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    I think DRK would come out on top for a single target if you use DA on Power Slash.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Think a good idea would be to go into a primal set to hardmode with 2 friends (maybe a healer too) and give it a shot. Report back with your findings :3
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    Phafi Flailspike
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    DRK because it can keep up its DD and tank stance at the same time.

    WAR can spike an enormous amount of enmity in the time that unchained is active, but after that a DRK will pull ahead.

    PLD is not good at generating enmity.
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    Aria Erabith
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    Malboro
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    Miner Lv 100
    I would presume warrior due to higher DPS, all other variables being equal. Dark Knight seems to have rather high enmity generation though so it would be close.
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    Just your friendly neighborhood elezen

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    King Canadane
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    Sage Lv 100
    As someone who levels all three (main gearing a warrior) I'd place my money on Dark Knight. A couple DA Power Slashes and you're golden.
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    IMO DRK is great for enmity, because of Dark Arts + Power Slash and AoE gives huge enmity.
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    The one who keeps losing hate on mobs and wiping the party :P
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    Ryu Dragonheart
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Reading through this I'm a little surprised by the answers, I would have imagined that it would be WAR because Berserk + Unchained + Internal Release then Butchers Block a couple times generates insane enmity and I would think a DRK spamming Power Slash will find themselves out of MP and out of Darkside before even their Dark Arts Power Slashes would overcome the WARs aggro, and I wouldn't necessarily count PLD out either as DRK needs to use their MP regen combo occasionally and a good WAR will be using Storms Eye to help generate aggro from the Slashing resistance down debuff and attack up where as a PLD generating aggro never needs to use anything other than Rage of Halone.
    Having said that I still think a WAR will out aggro the other 2

    AOE is a little more interesting tho. In particularly big pulls a WARs Overpower may be unable to hit all the enemies and Steel Cyclone is locked behind their Wrath mechanic. Which makes it a race between PLD and DRK in AOE, PLD has enhanced Flash and the Circle of Scorn DOT on a very short CD, where as DRK has Unleash, Dark Passenger and Salted Earth. Dark Passenger suffers from the same issue as Overpower in particularly large pulls where the mobs surround you so they can attack you, Salted earth is a Fire arrow like DOT I believe and Unleash is Flash with a damage dealing mechanic.
    In an AOE aggro war between the two of them I believe it would be which ones MP holds out longer and Im not sure who that would be as DRK has Blood Price but is constantly losing MP to Darkside and Dark Passenger has an MP cost despite being a cooldown while a PLD can use Circle of Scorn without losing MP but has no way of reneging MP without switching to a single target for riot blade and I read somewhere that Flash generates more enmity than Unleash but that could be wrong
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