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  1. #41
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    So imagine there are 3 tanks in the same party (warrior, paladin and dark knight), all of the same level, ilevel and gear, all full STR specced and with dps accessories. All in their tanking stance and doing their best aggro combos. But nobody uses Provoke. Which tank will be on top of enmity list in this situation?
    The one in their tanking stance using their hate combo.

    Which one does the least damage?

    The Paladin...always...
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  2. #42
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    Franchesca's Avatar
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    Franchesca Ridill
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 60
    On single target and if WAR knows how to use Unchained+Berserk+Internal Release properly in a combo, they will definitely come out on top. DRK would come in second for sure, then PLD.
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    Last edited by Franchesca; 09-17-2015 at 03:02 PM.

  3. #43
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    Besides, WAR can also use flash. And as a fun fact, a WAR's flash is actually stronger than a PLD's because it is affected by Maim (Whereas PLD's is not).
    Not to derail the conversation, but can someone explain how a damage boost affects a skill that doesn't do damage?
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  4. #44
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Not to derail the conversation, but can someone explain how a damage boost affects a skill that doesn't do damage?
    Flash basically has a damage value tied in with it's enmity, it scales with WD/STR/Determination but is counted as a magical attack (you can see this in T4 where your Flash "damage" is reflected). Due to Maim increasing flat damage dealt, it increases the enmity generation of Flash - FoF, however, only increases physical damage dealt and therefore doesn't affect Flash. Berserk also increases Flash's enmity generation but Unchained does not.

    That said, a WAR would rather be using OP given the option which works for all of the above, including Unchained. :P
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  5. #45
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    Khaela Alteri
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Not to derail the conversation, but can someone explain how a damage boost affects a skill that doesn't do damage?
    Flash has an 'enmity potency' which scales with attack power, but it's magical not physical. What this means is that berserk, maim, and other abilities that blanket increase attack power increase flash's enmity gain (so does having more str), but fight or flight, the Pld damage booster doesn't, as it specifically increases PHYSICAL attack power.
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  6. #46
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Huh, that is interesting. Unlikely to ever bother using that information, but interesting. Thanks.
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