Please Remove or Repurpose Parry

[Sapphidia]

I just hate it because I can't rely on it. If it was a useful defensive stat, I would take it. Sadly, it's not.

It's not so much that it isnt reliable (with 15-20% chance to parry you'll see a significant amount in any normal length fight), it's just that the tanking meta doesnt give a monkeys about your average mitigation. Parry doesnt "save you" in the way a tanking cooldown does, or flat armor/defense - it just reduces the overall healing requirement in an encounter when using optimal efficient heals and minimising overhealing.

In a game like WoW in the early days of raiding for instance, bosses just pummelled tanks constantly needing a consistant stream of healing into them, and didn't really have huge tankbusters. As a result, tanks wanted to stack mitigation, avoidance, blocking, anything which reduced the overall healing requirement on them. The "failure state" of a lot of these early raids was healers running out of mana, so a stuff like random block/parry chances generally would help. The tanking meta kind of alternated in different expansions between overall mitigation with healer mana being the issue (where tanks stacked avoidance/block/mitigation), or healers having near infinite mana but tanks being able to be killed in 3 seconds if they took 2-3 hits without a heal (where tanks just stacked pure Stamina).

In FFXIV though, this meta doesnt exist. healers don't run out of mana unless they have to heavily AOE heal or res people. Tanks can tank for long periods of time in DPS stance without needing too much babysitting. There's such low threat on a tank in the main bulk of any encounter that mitigation is ONLY needed during certain predictable tank busters.

An encounter like Alex 2 Savage might be the exception, but even there when you have a tank tanking a huge aoe pack the mechanics of the fight allow a gobwalker to stun them so tanks take no damage anyway.

Parry will never be a decent stat until the tank meta changes to one where tanks need a constant stream of healing to not die, and as much mitigation as possible is needed to prevent healers going out of MP.

[Viviza]

Nothing can save Parry as long as it remains a Defensive Stat. That's just the way this community is now.

Yep, this. Look at vitality. Vitality does have value that is 100% reliable -- it makes you harder to kill. When your healers are distracted for a moment, or a cooldown was used at the wrong time, or you get clipped by something, having enough health to not die can prevent a wipe entirely. The common retort "well just play perfectly" doesn't hold much weight compared to actual gameplay where mistakes are made, and people die to hits they would have survived with another hundred health.

But tanks will not stack it.

Justified? Maybe. Raid DPS checks are very high right now. You need good tank DPS to reasonably clear them. Dying to enrage five minutes later is still dead. But I think there's also a persistent mentality that a tank only needs as much health as the hardest hit, and caution beyond that be damned, which doesn't strike me as very tanky.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Parry should be DPS Modifier for Autoattack.

[Xaenith]

Well they definitely need to do *something* with it...

When a stat is so ineffective that it isn't even worth considering then something is clearly wrong with it. I doubt the original intention was for it to be completely useless. Trash stats are pretty common in games though so I dunno, maybe it's a huge joke for the developers.

[Kosmos992k]

Well they definitely need to do *something* with it...

When a stat is so ineffective that it isn't even worth considering then something is clearly wrong with it. I doubt the original intention was for it to be completely useless. Trash stats are pretty common in games though so I dunno, maybe it's a huge joke for the developers.

Indeed, except this 'trash' stat is dripping from my gear. It should do something useful, right now it's literally a waste of space.

[Giantbane]

I'm ok with keeping it a defensive stat, I just wish it also:

Increased block (slightly) on PLD to compensate for the fact that blocked attacks can't be parried.
Increased parry strength (so it works like crit)
and was replaced by a new stat (Resilience? or whatever) that increases both parry and resistance to all magic (so it's not useless in all magic fights)

[Duelle]

was replaced by a new stat (Resilience? or whatever) that increases both parry and resistance to all magic (so it's not useless in all magic fights)

I like this one.

[RiisWolf]

Or you know. .. .display what the actual rate vs same level is.
Have it parry more than 10% of all hits. Significantly more than 30% if it wards off only 20% of the damage. Why is it so damn low in everyway!?

Or the BIG one:
Reduce all of the damage like a parry is supposed to do. How is it a parry when you still get hit by 80% of the hit? The answer: You're a klutz and you're doing it wrong, and you still got stabbed.

[Donjo]

Reduce all of the damage like a parry is supposed to do. How is it a parry when you still get hit by 80% of the hit? The answer: You're a klutz and you're doing it wrong, and you still got stabbed.

Well, but at least you got stabbed in the lung instead of the heart! Silver linings, right?

[SpookyGhost]

Parry as it is now: RNG mitigation that is wholly unreliable on tank busters (outside of RI on WAR) and completely useless at smoothing auto attack damage as that can be healed with simple HoTs and Fairy heals (also, y'know, unreliable). Crit is also checked before Parry, which means the only spike damage you can regularly take can't even be parried.

It just doesn't work as a defensive stat in this game. It either needs to be a flat damage reduction increase (like Defense/Magic Defense) or it needs to provide some sort of damage reflect for it to be a relevant stat in the current meta.