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  1. #511
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    Spiriel_Basanda's Avatar
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    Spiriel Basanda
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    So my question is mostly, is this roughly how I'm supposed to do it in the scenario where you can't load 5 ammo ahead of time or am I doing something horrendously wrong here?

    Last thing I would ask is cooldown related. I've seen it asked and answered earlier so again I'll just ask if this is still the case, because the answer was a long, long time ago. Delaying your 2nd Wild Fire long enough to activate all of B4B, HE, and HC are all ready again is a overall gain instead of just going after B4B and HE are back up. Is that accurate still?

    That's all I got. Thanks.
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  2. #512
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    The stat weights are correct, it would require a LOT of sks to get more GCDs in WF


    I am actually 221 with a 230 weapon & my WFs are all 9K-12K, following aiurly's no ammo rotation on their YT channel(however in Savage content you will always have the opportunity to pre load 5 ammo)& the second WF should be 6K-ish. So you in a good range, it just needs a little fine tuning for the lower end.


    And in any fight longer than 3 minutes(I believe), it is a loss to hold any skills so pop them as they come up EXCEPT hold BFB & HE until just before your second WF is off cd. Do not wait until HC is up, that's far too long unless again you'll be in 3 min or less fight. And don't use feint unless very specific conditions are met such as A7S.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/12116351/


  3. #513
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    Understood, thanks very much for the info RL.
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  4. #514
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    Myon Miya
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    Some people have been noticing that something seems different about OGCDs in 3.3, they seem to execute a little faster and feel more responsive - the actual total delay is the same though I think, so it's not like we can triple weave now or something. I think they just increased the buffer window to chain skills one after the other and made them fire off more responsively like the recent mudra change.

    It's definitely been a benefit to me, playing from AU I'm never below 150-200ms ping, and sometimes I suspect I'm losing the last weaponskill in Wildfire (it's very close). Since the patch though, its been super smooth sailing.
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  5. #515
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    Shin Senpai
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Some people have been noticing that something seems different about OGCDs in 3.3, they seem to execute a little faster and feel more responsive - the actual total delay is the same though I think, so it's not like we can triple weave now or something. I think they just increased the buffer window to chain skills one after the other and made them fire off more responsively like the recent mudra change.

    It's definitely been a benefit to me, playing from AU I'm never below 150-200ms ping, and sometimes I suspect I'm losing the last weaponskill in Wildfire (it's very close). Since the patch though, its been super smooth sailing.
    I've noticed that QR and Pot doesn't kill into your GCD like it did before. Pot still does cut into your gcd but not as bad as I remember it. Unsure if its because I've been making Drac pots instead of X pots now.
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  6. 06-16-2016 04:24 PM
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  7. #516
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    Rhaya Wolfsbane
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 71
    Hey guys .

    New Machinist reporting for duty !

    anyone willing to share their cross hotbar for MCH ?

    ive been trying some things out but i am curious wwhat yours look like .
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  8. #517
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Some people have been noticing that something seems different about OGCDs in 3.3, they seem to execute a little faster and feel more responsive - the actual total delay is the same though I think, so it's not like we can triple weave now or something. I think they just increased the buffer window to chain skills one after the other and made them fire off more responsively like the recent
    It definitely feels that way, especially with Rapid Fire weaving.

    Also, has it been mentioned at all that it seems like MCH has a minimum SPD value where everything aligns really tight like DRG?
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  9. #518
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    Komoritane's Avatar
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Also, has it been mentioned at all that it seems like MCH has a minimum SPD value where everything aligns really tight like DRG?
    Outof Names guide mentions that the openers should be doable with 475+ skill speed.

    Aiurily's MCH FAQ has some skill speed threshold information as well:
    http://www.tinyurl.com/aiurilyfaq
    "the rotation flows more fluidly and comfortably (imo) at either below 460 sksp or 704+ sksp. i consider anything in between to be a bit awkward. in the end, these are not huge deal breaking thresholds; you should still prioritize maximizing crit and det."

    If you look at gear for most top MCH in lodestone, they're usually sitting at around 500-something skill speed.
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    Last edited by Komoritane; 06-17-2016 at 07:09 AM. Reason: found Aiurily's guide

  10. #519
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    One thing I probably should've mentioned though is that if you have to use the same gear set for BRD and play both, then you might consider shooting for closer to ~700 sks since that's more optimal for BRD, if BRD is your main.
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  11. #520
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Thanks. Was just curious since currently I have a 2.4s GCD and everything just seems to line up smoother than when I had a 2.47 ish GCD. Although not sure if it translates to a higher pps
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