Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

I don't personally, he spends so long in giant form that if you hold your CDs every time that happens, you're almost certainly going to lose a use or two of them over the course of the fight and come out behind.

I just Wildfire and use cooldowns as normal and cherish the moments where they sync up with his small form.

[Yellowskin]

In A5S, do you use Wildfire only when the boss transforms back to his little form?

The way i do A5S is i just simple use my Wildfire combo everytime its off cds because i have noticed mostly every RS Wildfire he will be small (except for the pull ofc) so my dps doesn't drop that hard but my record is 1.265 dps on A5S. So maybe there is a better way.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I did notice I was doing more damage (or rather the damage I should've been doing) when he was smaller.

[Ossom]

Decide that since my Mch is just one of my alt classes, I would experiment with a build for it. (Full on Skill Speed), right now I have around 1K Skill Speed and a 2.25 GCD, and I gotta say, TP is just not an issue for this class unless your spamming AoEs. I don't have any TP issues with it in Seph at all. (Haven't gotten to try it in A5s or A6s because I main Monk).

Unfortunately I can't play around with numbers because of playing on the PS4 or I would have some numbers for you guys. Anyways, I'm favoring SS over Det on my Mch, it feels nicer to play.

[Hanmerreborn]

I'm not sure if it's been better or not but I've been trying altering my opener in a5s. The goal is to essentially get lead shot fully buffed and out before he transforms at the start.

So with at least two ammo;

Between 10-6s remaining: rapid fire
6-0: HE-BfB-RS-Pot
Hot shot - hyper - lead shot

Repeat as normal


Opinions?

[ZanzhizExaverion]

Decide that since my Mch is just one of my alt classes, I would experiment with a build for it. (Full on Skill Speed), right now I have around 1K Skill Speed and a 2.25 GCD, and I gotta say, TP is just not an issue for this class unless your spamming AoEs. I don't have any TP issues with it in Seph at all. (Haven't gotten to try it in A5s or A6s because I main Monk).

Unfortunately I can't play around with numbers because of playing on the PS4 or I would have some numbers for you guys. Anyways, I'm favoring SS over Det on my Mch, it feels nicer to play.

Is there a skillspeed attainable currently that allows for a third Clean Shot in the opener? though I doubt it's better than Crit/Det.. With a GCD like that I feel it's possible.

[Velhart]

Is there a skillspeed attainable currently that allows for a third Clean Shot in the opener? though I doubt it's better than Crit/Det.. With a GCD like that I feel it's possible.

Not to mention skill speed does not affect your turret either.

[Ossom]

Not to mention skill speed does not affect your turret either.

It doesn't effect attack speed of the turret? I thought SE fixed that so pets were affected by SS? That does hurt the build a bit, but your turret only does like 15% of your dmg compared to like MNK or DRG where your AA is closer to 20-35% (DRG closer to 20-25 and MNK closer to 30-35)

[RiceisNice]

It doesn't effect attack speed of the turret? I thought SE fixed that so pets were affected by SS? That does hurt the build a bit, but your turret only does like 15% of your dmg compared to like MNK or DRG where your AA is closer to 20-35% (DRG closer to 20-25 and MNK closer to 30-35)

Summoners, sure. Nothing about turrets though from what I've seen. Skill speed is not in affect for a period of time because of rapid fire, and you only have one DoT. On top of that, SS only realy speeds up your weaponskill usage, and MCH's sustained doesn't leave much to build around. It's something that has less of an effect on wildfire (because of rapid fire) versus crit and det that has an effect across board, including wildfire and reassemble.

[Ossom]

Summoners, sure. Nothing about turrets though from what I've seen. Skill speed is not in affect for a period of time because of rapid fire, and you only have one DoT. On top of that, SS only realy speeds up your weaponskill usage, and MCH's sustained doesn't leave much to build around. It's something that has less of an effect on wildfire (because of rapid fire) versus crit and det that has an effect across board, including wildfire and reassemble.

I think its possible to get the SS to get another attack off in Wildfire. Pretty sure at the SS I am at now, if I get the last proc on Slug Shot then the Clean Shot will get in, but if I don't get the proc, Split Shot might not.

Other than that yeah I would have to agree with your points. That said, I think SS is more valuable to Mch than it is Brds, and Dervy's new stat weights have Brds valuing SS more than Det.

I think Mch is very similar to Blm when it comes to Skillspeed/Spellspeed.

• Mch and Blm both don't have AA (Minus the Turret, which is the biggest limiter on how effective SS for Mch right now IMHO)
• Getting another attack in a HyperCharge/Wildfire/Raging/B4B/Hawk and even another Split/slug/clean in between Hot shots seems like it would be a big boost
• Being able to get a cast off while dodging an AoE / Doing a Mechanic is a huge DPS increase over not getting the cast off at all

I will say that Mch's SS will never be as valuable as Blm's SS with the way both classes stand now. But I think there is a case to be had that maybe Mch's Skill Speed is more valuable than its Determination, which is what I based the build on. (High Crit > High SS > Low Det).