Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

[ShadowYomi]

I have been curious about the second wild fire also. When I usually hold my reload and dps cool downs for wild fire I tend to kill sss ten seconds faster than when I use wildfire without reload.

[Judge_Xero]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

You'd definitely want to go that route. Probably a solid 5 DEX worth of stats.

[lulunami]

I have been curious about the second wild fire also. When I usually hold my reload and dps cool downs for wild fire I tend to kill sss ten seconds faster than when I use wildfire without reload.

SSS is only 3 minutes. Wildfire is a 90 second CD. A normal striking dummy rotation has Strong Wildfire, Weak Wildfire, Strong Wildfire, Weak Wildfire, Strong Wildfire, etc. every 90 seconds.

But SSS is only 3 minutes. Wildfire will come off CD just after 3 minutes, which you cannot use. That means you only get to use 2 Wildfires. So instead, you optimize your CD's around 2 Strong Wildfires.

[ShadowYomi]

So what is the typical rotation for a wildfire without reload and what is a good damage number for it?

[Inuk9]

So what is the typical rotation for a wildfire without reload and what is a good damage number for it?

Wildfire, blood for blood, hawk eye, quick reload, rapid shot, gauss barrel, etc.

This wildfire should hit for around 5k damage depending on your procs


Ps. You actually activate bfb and he before the wildfire.

[Jonnycbad]

How about the video of MCH doing 9-11k Wildfires ?

[Velhart]

How about the video of MCH doing 9-11k Wildfires ?

With people getting 220-240 gear more each week along with materia, this isn't hard to pull off anymore. I have hit 10k+ plenty of times with no food/potion/party on a dummy.

[zandervont]

How about the video of MCH doing 9-11k Wildfires ?

There's been Wildfires of 14,5k on the top parses so 11k feels weak compared to those. Gotten 14,3k myself during a6s.

[Aiurily]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

the difference either way iirc is around 0.5 dex towards i230 ring if the acc is low enough to support it

here's what i'd probably use for bis flank with midan ring

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TI3U

then this is what it'd look like if you swapped midan ring out with i230 ring

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TICF

you'd use pipira instead of staff, and replace a det V materia with acc V, putting you at 691 acc.



if 691 is enough for flank, it becomes

31 crit 35 det vs 5 dex 67 sksp

which, with the jp weights is 12.6 vs 12.102

if 691 acc is not enough for flank and you have to put another acc V in, then it becomes 31 crit 23 det vs 5 dex 67 sksp; 10.512 vs 12.102.