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    How well are peeps doing on a8s dummy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zandervont View Post
    How well are peeps doing on a8s dummy?
    Heheh, I gave it a go for fun and failed at 15%. I guess another ~5-10 ilevels should do it, I'm too cheap to use food and pots though.

    It's 3 minutes so I did the usual Faust-style 'delay 2nd Wildfire by 30s to line up with Hypercharge', standard way to game 3-minute parses.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 02-25-2016 at 03:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Heheh, I gave it a go for fun and failed at 15%. I guess another ~5-10 ilevels should do it, I'm too cheap to use food and pots too.

    It's 3 minutes so I did the usual Faust-style 'delay 2nd Wildfire by 30s to line up with Hypercharge', standard way to game 3-minute parses.
    I personally have trouble with Mildfires. Are yoy supposed to hold your 2nd WF until Reload is back up? And do you hold B4B HE for it as well? It seems to work with the timing for A3S Hand of Pain but in extended fights it seems strange to hold it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
    I personally have trouble with Mildfires. Are yoy supposed to hold your 2nd WF until Reload is back up? And do you hold B4B HE for it as well? It seems to work with the timing for A3S Hand of Pain but in extended fights it seems strange to hold it.
    Yeah in that particular 3 minute case (in Stone, Sky, Sea) I hold bfb and Hawk's Eye as well, basically the entire 2nd Wildfire. Since you only get to use them one more time before the encounter ends at 3:00, you may as well hold them all for 30 seconds so you can compound them with Hypercharge. It kind of looks like,

    0:00 - Bfb, HE, RS, Hypercharge, Wildfire
    2:00 - Bfb, HE, Hypercharge, Wildfire
    3:00 - Fight end

    Looking only at a 3:00 timeframe, this is strictly better than using stuff on cooldown like so,

    0:00 - Bfb, HE, RS, Hypercharge, Wildfire
    1:30 - Bfb, HE, Wildfire
    2:00 - Hypercharge
    3:00 - Fight end

    Mind you these are very simple and cut and dry situations like Faust and Stone, Sky, Sea where you know the fight is 3 minutes max.

    You can apply the same logic to an actual boss fight, but you'd need to have a very clear idea of how the phases line up and whether you have an opportunity or not.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 02-25-2016 at 01:27 AM.

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    Yeah I'm talking in general not a 3 minute because Reload at that time is usually 30s behind WF#2 so, is it worth holding the WF for the 30s longer in most scenarios?

    :00 Reload WF
    :60Reload
    :90Hold WF
    2:00Reload WF

    Would be the breakdown I'm asking. Is this a better increase in damage by guaranteeing your WF isn't garbage, or is it usually better to WF without ammo at :90?

    Timing of course isn't exact.
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    Last edited by ZanzhizExaverion; 02-25-2016 at 01:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zandervont View Post
    How well are peeps doing on a8s dummy?
    Best I have done is between 14-16%. At ilvl210, no misses at 712 accuracy. Also no food/pots.
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