Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Archaell]

We already have hypercharge that increases their damage taken. Dismantle/mind rend reduces their damage dealt.

We do have hypercharge, but I don't think it is as good as Foe. That's why I assume that Dismantle and Mind rend were created to help a bit with the balance between the jobs.

[RiceisNice]

We do have hypercharge, but I don't think it is as good as Foe. That's why I assume that Dismantle and Mind rend were created to help a bit with the balance between the jobs.

Depends on what you mean by that, and even then we don't need to homogenize the two jobs even more than they already are. Hypercharge has the capability to increase physical damage taken, something that BRD doesn't have, as well as the option to do a weaker variation of foe's. Dismantle/Rend works as a psuedo virus for 5% to reduce damage taken.

[Themis]

We do have hypercharge, but I don't think it is as good as Foe. That's why I assume that Dismantle and Mind rend were created to help a bit with the balance between the jobs.

I view it as MCH having many options for how they approach a situation.

Like BRD, they have the MP or TP option (or neither when not needed) which is typical of the support style role in XIV.

MCH also have:

Stun or Silence
Heavy or Bind
Reduce physical damage or reduce magical damage
Increase physical damage or increase magical damage

Bard, however, doesn't have that kind of play. It gets only gets one choice: Silence - no Stun, Bind - no Heavy, increase magical damage - no physical alternative. They don't get any option for reducing damage.

It's the adaptability of a MCH over a BRD that I find more interesting and appealing, even if only one of those two options can be used at a time. Whilst the effects might not be strong on their own, as a package it's pretty reasonable and balanced.

[RiceisNice]

Stun or Silence
Heavy or Bind
Reduce physical damage or reduce magical damage
Increase physical damage or increase magical damage


It's the adaptability of a MCH over a BRD that I find more interesting and appealing, even if only one of those two options can be used at a time. Whilst the effects might not be strong on their own, as a package it's pretty reasonable and balanced.

Half of those things don't work in a raid/dungeon/diadem setting though, and the other half works on such a small value it doesn't necessarily amount to an edge over BRD (and if it does, then that becomes another problem). It's different, but that's about it when it comes to comparing to the two, how they play and what they provide. It falls back to me preferring that they had homogenized their role and what they can do for the party, not how they play or how they do the former.