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  1. #151
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    I would not recommend going for that upgrade unless you are massively over acc cap. The loss of 58 accuracy would be hard to recover from, but we could do some playing around with it.
    Accuracy is always taken into mind. I'm only using it for thordan Ex where I seem to have a 100% hit rate with 598. The other option is getting a gordian hood of aiming for accuracy instead of upgraded goggles. With that I'd be trading in 58 skill speed for 17 extra crit (on helm slot) and being able to use the shoes to get 15 crit/28 skill speed at the cost of 3 det.
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  2. #152
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Here's what I got: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1555668/

    The ring replaced an i200 and I swapped out the Gordian Armguards Of Aiming.

    Okay, I'm starting to miss the skill speed. Math'd out with stat weights I'm hitting harder, but I'm starting to wonder if the drop in skill speed was really worth it. I guess I need to test it out some, but still. Anyone starting to think skill speed is getting too much down play?
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    Last edited by arctic; 11-17-2015 at 08:46 AM. Reason: more info
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  3. #153
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Got myself a keeper here. 163 points in secondary stats compared to 156, especially if i don't need the accuracy.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post


    Got myself a keeper here. 163 points in secondary stats compared to 156, especially if i don't need the accuracy.
    Feeling any difference with skill speed at 559?
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Feeling any difference with skill speed at 559?
    I haven't put it to use yet. Something like skill speed I never get the "feeling" of difference if it's only going to change slightly. I haven't seen any noticable difference in turret damage/interaction either.
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  6. #156
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    Isra Daisy
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I need help with gear progression for Mch. For this week I have enough to get any 1 piece except chest or pants (Already got weapon)

    I'm i190 in everything except ring (which I use asuran, the 180 one), and these 2 pieces (Chest piece i210 and Head piece i210)



    Should I wait next week for pants? Or, should I get something else?
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  7. #157
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Discarding all the nubmers because of some mix ups. Ariyala doesn't track or save mistbreaker stats. At my current point, it's a matter of wanting more crit (mistbreaker top to sub the eso top) or det (mistbreaker pants to sub the eso pants).


    Stats with eso pants and MB top


    Eso top and MB pants.

    The comparison is essentially 117 crit versus 90 det (and going by current stat weights, crit wins out point-by-point)

    I can swap around my eso earrings with goridan earrings to make up the accuracy cap, or in the case of the second setup, a baked Pipira to get to 638 accuracy for frontal cap on A3. Other alternatives for more accuracy is the goridan hood (SS+crit to acc+crit) or gordian gloves to eso gloves (crit+ss to crit+acc)

    MB top with eso pants, swapping eso earrings for gordian earrings


    MB top with eso pants, swapping eso head with gordian head
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 11-18-2015 at 04:50 AM.
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  8. #158
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    Urthas Nyth
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    Zodiark
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Bear in mind I'm still leveling (58, almost there).

    I've always been using this opener myself:
    <all buffs and hot shot>
    Lead Shot - Quick Reload
    Split Shot - Reload
    Slug Shot - Reassemble + Wild Fire
    Clean Shot - Rapid Fire (+ Ricochet)
    Split Shot - Gauss Round
    Slug Shot - Head Graze
    Split Shot - Blank
    Clean Shot - Quick Reload
    Slug Shot
    Clean Shot

    I get 3 guaranteed Clean Shots just squeezed in the wild fire. While it seems to me the listed opener gives 2 guaranteed Clean Shots and a 3rd at 50%.
    What's the reason the opener is as it is? Or is skill speed on high item levels making what I do not possible or inefficient?
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    Last edited by Wixey; 11-18-2015 at 09:47 PM.

  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wixey View Post
    ...
    You're losing out on buffs by the time you get to your third split shot because you're delaying wildfire usage to your first slug shot (instead of split shot). You're changing out a 200 potency slug shot with all 3 buffs active, as well as hypercharge's debuff, for an unbuffed, 200 potency clean shot.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 11-19-2015 at 02:47 AM.
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  10. #160
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    Raul Prower
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    Exodus
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    I've been trying out Machinist, and now that I have reached level 35 and got Clean Shot I've noticed that latency may be making proc usage a bit difficult, as in when I use Slug Shot, I have to wait a moment to see if Clean Shot procs, which is fine most of the time, but is almost impossible to react to it when using Rapid Fire, as the icon lights up pretty much at the same time as the GCD is off if a proc happens.

    Am I the only one having this problem or is Reload/Quick Reload supposed to negate this issue? My latency is a steady 126ms most of the time.
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