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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    I believe we had this discussion before, but I personally find the stat gain from the SkillSpeed to be better than the wasted 41 accuracy. There is no other combination of gear that still gives the crit and det numbers we have that allows you to properly use that 41 accuracy.

    Here is the difference in stats when swapping helmets as you propose. The top one is the guide's BiS list, the bottom is yours.

    DEX - Acc - Crit - Det - SkS - Vit (just incase you did not know the order for the stats from Ariyala's page.)





    With an accuracy cap for a4s of around 650 to 655, i personally do not see the swap in helms to be worth the 17 crit raiting
    Accuracy cap for A4S is around 650, right, but I don't care about overcap accuracy if I'm maxing my main second stat, Crit.
    Crit is the best second stat by far, it brings crit chance and crit damage, Skill Speed is pretty weak since our casts are 1.5...You are gonna need a lot of Skill Speed to get a real diference, but every 44 point of Critical Hit Damage bring 1% Chance and 1% Damage, I mean, crit has 2 effects, then 17 points of critical hit rate is equal to +0.4% chance and +0.4% crit damage and this is better than 58 Skill Speed by far and for sure.

    I don't care if my accuracy is overcaped if I am maxing Crit.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 09-16-2015 at 10:45 AM.

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    Griffeth White
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    I don't care if my accuracy is overcaped if I am maxing Crit.
    and no one has stated that you must follow this BiS. If you value the 17 crit and wasted 41 accuracy over the skill speed, then that's all personal preference. Until we have people decked out in both sets running parsers and giving data fueled feedback, its all going to be going off raw stat values and what gives us the most bang for our buck. I am going to pour over the old thread to find where Xero gave us a rough update to the SkS weight and make sure to get it updated asap (probably after my raid tonight)
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Accuracy cap for A4S is around 650, right, but I don't care about overcap accuracy if I'm maxing my main second stat, Crit.
    Crit is the best second stat by far, it brings crit chance and crit damage, Skill Speed is pretty weak since our casts are 1.5...You are gonna need a lot of Skill Speed to get a real diference, but every 44 point of Critical Hit Damage bring 1% Chance and 1% Damage, I mean, crit has 2 effects, then 17 points of critical hit rate is equal to +0.4% chance and +0.4% crit damage and this is better than 58 Skill Speed by far and for sure.

    I don't care if my accuracy is overcaped if I am maxing Crit.
    Pretty much this. It boils down to theoretical BIS vs practical BIS. On paper the SS build may have a higher stat weight, but in practice its probably not as strong as one that favors crit/det. Even if you have that much more SS, how many more GCD's will you get than the person who doesn't, probably not more than 1 or 2, and that is in a straight fight with no down time. But one thing i will say is, DET affects skill damage and turret damage so that is definitely a stat worth looking at with crit.
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