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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    I think you'd be much happier as a BRD if you want PvP burst damage, our only 'burst' is Wildfire which requires you to train a target for 15 seconds straight to get full utility - that's never gonna happen in PvP.

    BRD have Barrage + Empyreal Arrow for a no setup, 660 potency nuke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Opinions on PvP? I have been leveling my MCH on the basis (looking at actions/pvp actions) that MCH Burst would be OP, I'll post my theorycraft rotations if you like, but if anyone playing a lvl 60 MCH extensively has done a lot of PvP, I'd rather see your opinions and accounts. Also, again theorycraft, but I believe in regards to PvP, stats would be Skillsp 540>Det>Crit? Thoughts?
    MCH's burst is more on-the-go than BRD and more reliable since it doesn't require them to be standing still (keeping in mind the ranged damage penalty). Traited BtE in perfect circumstances is a 540 potency hit and it's comparable to a barraged empryeal (which has a cast time attached to it), on top of Gauss Round, Ricochet, Reassemvled Cleanshot + with ammo, slug shot and clean shot again. Bard needs to apply both DoTs and get enough time to stand still to sweet spot their barraged empyreal then hit with sidewinder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    It's not always so simple when it comes to potencies since ranged damage is penalized depending on distance, and the BRD counterpart to Between the Eyes ignores this penalty.

    It's one thing to wombo combo someone who isn't paying attention to you in perfect conditions, especially in Seize which is basically a zerg. Makes a nice video, but gimmicky, I think you can raise the bar a bit higher.
    They already reduced the damage penalty for being further than 15 yalms, and farshot is only 200 potency. And the conditions really isn't as situational as you'd think, the span of Foot graze+BtE is near instantaneous unless they purify it. That being said though, wildfire can be cleansed by esuna or similair abilties. It takes way too long to trigger and if they haven't died from your initial burst, then honestly they arent gonna be dying to your wildfire either even if it does go off.

    PvP itself is a completely different beast; there's no set rotations for anything and it boils down to playing with what comes at you.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 09-16-2015 at 06:10 AM.
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