Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

Basically you want rapid fire to be before the split-slug-split section, since that makes the most use out of the charges. Other weaponskills become instant with ammo procs, so all rapid fire does is make them fire faster. Split shot will always have a cast time no matter what, so using rapid fire to remove the cast time is a larger benefit.

You did that correctly too in your opener. The catch however is that it's not possible to start the Wildfire sequence with split-slug-split as the first 3 weaponskills, because as you can see, there's no way to fit rapid fire after lead shot and before wildfire without clipping the GCD. There's only room to weave 1 ability after lead shot, and it must be reload.

For the 1 less weaponskill, I'm not able to get that last Slug Shot/8th weaponskill in your Wildfire either. In your video it looks extremely close, and generally due to latency, weaponskills that hit the target when Wildfire has <1s left don't actually get added to the damage.

That said, if you're able to (maybe you have a really good 5 ms ping connection to the server), that means you can get an 8th weaponskill in the opener I listed too, so they are the same in that regard.

[Caitlyn]

For the 1 less weaponskill, I'm not able to get that last Slug Shot/8th weaponskill in your Wildfire either. In your video it looks extremely close, and generally due to latency, weaponskills that hit the target when Wildfire has <1s left don't actually get added to the damage.

That said, if you're able to (maybe you have a really good 5 ms ping connection to the server), that means you can get an 8th weaponskill in the opener I listed too, so they are the same in that regard.

Actually, my gear (ilvl 253) is based on Crit (1.171) > Skillspeed (1.039) > Determination (256). I know, I m weird : P

I can put a 8th weaponskill without problems in my burst rotation. That means, let us take 8 weaponskills in total. 3 of them are under the effect of rapidfire (no cast, 1,5 GCD). 4 weaponskills are using ammunition, while 1 weaponskill must be casted.

1. Splitshot (Rapidfire) -> 1,5s GCD
2. Slugshot (Rapidfire, Ammunition) -> 1,5s GCD
3. Splitshot (Rapidfire) -> 1,5s GCD
4. Cleanshot (Ammunition) -> 2,24s GCD instead of 2,5
5. Slugshot (Ammunition) -> 2,24s GCD (see above)
6. Cleanshot (Ammunition) -> 2,24s GCD
7. Splitshot (Cast) -> 1,34s Casttime instead of 1,5s
8. Slugshot (Ammunition) -> 2,24s

Total: 14,8 seconds instead of 16 seconds

Wildfire is active for 15 seconds. Sure, it is very close, but as far wildfire is up, any skill count (in my opinion) ^^.

[Myon88]

Yes, if you have that much skillspeed, you'll be able to get an 8th weaponskill in all other openers as well, In the one I posted, it'll be an extra Clean Shot at the end.

Whether the extra weaponskill in Wildfire outweighs the loss of other stats (det in your case) overall is a different matter, but I don't feel qualified to look into that right now. If it works for you, then go for it.

[Caitlyn]

Yes, if you have that much skillspeed, you'll be able to get an 8th weaponskill in all other openers as well, In the one I posted, it'll be an extra Clean Shot at the end.

That extra Clean Shot is not garanteed, because you have no stacks of ammunition left. Its only a 50% chance to put that 8th weaponskill into it.

Your 7. weaponskill doesnt make sense.
Its gcd is still 2.24s. The cast time doesnt matter since its not your last shot.

Please watch my video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWlgP6dbnCY
Just count it by yourself, if you dont believe me.

[medeses]

Your 7. weaponskill doesnt make sense.
Its gcd is still 2.24s. The cast time doesnt matter since its not your last shot.

[Myon88]

It will be Clean/Split depending on whether you get a proc or not, but the 8th weaponskill will be there. The reason yours has no RNG with weaponskills is because they only get used after the Wildfire has begun. If you look back to the rotation I posted, the first one gets used before Wildfire, hence my 7th weaponskill is actually your 8th weaponskill.

And that goes back to the issue of the triple weave GCD clipping between Lead Shot and Wildfire, because there's no way to avoid clipping, if you start a wildfire with a rapid fire'd split-slug-split being the first 3 weaponskills.

[Deus_ex_Machina]

I don't know if this will help but there is a "rough estimate" of mch stat weight out there. And priorities aren't so different from 3.2. CRT>>DET>>SKS

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...or_34/d9flsoc/

[Malin-HunnysMonsta]

Hello there! I apologise if the answer to this question is already featured in this topic, but I was wondering if someone could help me out here.

Basically, freshie lvl60 mch here hoping to get good as I'm really enjoy it as a secondary. Been studying the rotations here and slowly getting the hang of them (even through the whole keeping an eye on DoTs and buffs is a world away from the upkeep ease I have on my drg main, causing me to tunnel vision to a worrying degree on the Cross Bar haha ;;; )

I was practising in an extended fight this morning (A9 to be exact) and as I noticed that there were 2 mage DPS in my team I decided to use my Bishop Turret with the Hypercharge buff for the damage increase on the mages. Now, this might be a dumb question, but as I'm aware the Rook has more potency on single target like Refurbisher, is it right for me to change the Bishop over to Rook when the Hypercharge buff is over?
Or does the extra potency for my end not really matter and it's okay to just keep Bishop out throughout that fight for when Hypercharge comes off cooldown and just move it about the arena for adds?

[Deus_ex_Machina]

Hello there! ...

Hey there, I think the best advice I got when i started to play mch was to think of your rotation as a 30 second chunk. You should refresh Hot shot and lead shot at the beginning of each 30 seconds blocks. Once you get this down, re-engaging your opener is pretty straight forward.

1-30 Opener with EVERYTHING
31-60 nothing too much
61-90 Reload, reassemble, ricochet
91-120 Hawk eye, blood for blood, rapid fire, wildfire
121-150 Reload, reassemble, ricochet + Hyper charge
161-180 Nothing much
181-210 Hawk eye, blood for blood, rapid fire, wildfire + Raging strikes
and so on

As for promotion, it would depends, you had 2 mages (assuming they are a power house) bishop increase their dps AND the 2 healer's DPS too. Providing they were dpsing too ofc. but Rook, will increase the your and the other physical, AND the 2 tanks! in this situation, if it was me i would have done physical to help out the OT's DPS and the increase damage could help MT's aggro? and tanks have pretty respectable dps too.

[Malin-HunnysMonsta]

Helpful stuff

Thank you very much.
So I'll stick with just using the Rook for single target regardless of the team setup.
I'll keep that 30 second chunk thing too. Should help me learn the new (to me) CD timers I'm having to face too.