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    That seems like an appropriate number to me. You have a pretty massive amount of SS compared to Det so that probably explains why it seems on the low side. It's going to push your wildfire numbers down since your weaponskills and abilities will individually be hitting for less.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 06-19-2016 at 07:05 PM.

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    Whats the ideal SS should i aim at ? Most the gear i have carries a chunk of SS. I guess ill have to work something out.
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    The 'ideal' SS is simply 'as low as possible' since Crit and Det are generally stronger stats for us. That's why most of the best in slot lists you'll see prioritize the pieces of gear with Crit and/or Det.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    The 'ideal' SS is simply 'as low as possible' since Crit and Det are generally stronger stats for us. That's why most of the best in slot lists you'll see prioritize the pieces of gear with Crit and/or Det.
    I find with minimal SS that I clip so much during my burst phases, dunno if it's my connection or what but my damage over 3 mins is higher with a tiny bit of SS to take the edge off.
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    Yeah that's why I say 'generally', most people seem to feel that a little bit is helpful to make everything flow a bit more smoothly and what have you. It certainly doesn't hurt, and the gap in statweight between SS and Det isn't that huge anyway.

    Thankfully, there's usually a few pieces every tier where we have 'no choice' but to pick up a bit of SS anyway (midan body/lore pants/midan ring), so it tends to work out just nice for us.
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    How do you guys handle cooldown usage on A8S during the transition to the final justice/gavel phase?

    The dilemma of course is that you have everything up for an opener level wildfire, but if you pop everything and then get chosen for regulators ~5 seconds later when he finishes casting final justice, you're pretty boned since you have nothing left and a useless wildfire ticking on the boss. I suppose you might be able to do it with just vanilla 1-2-3 weaponskills and your damage buffs still ticking, but it seems close - I haven't seen the phase enough to try it for myself.

    On the other hand you can play it safe and wait I guess, but it's a DPS loss since you sit there twiddling your thumbs waiting for him to assign debuffs. If you get FP3 then you can do a proper opener, and if you get FP1 you just have to suck it up and use some cooldowns on the regulator.

    Neither option feels particularly good to me though.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 06-21-2016 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    How do you guys handle cooldown usage on A8S during the transition to the final justice/gavel phase?
    I've got no idea if it's optimal, but in Aiurily's clear video it looks like he popped the wildfire right away and used everything except raging strikes. He didn't have to do regulators, and held raging all the way until his next WF which was when the boss was doing his flaming tornado spin thing. I wondered why he held raging, but based on what you're saying maybe it was for the regulators just in case? The only other reason to hold it might've been since you'd only get 1 more use of RS out of the fight, and he paired it with a WF that included a hypercharge...so I don't know. Rianchu Nau already had RS on cd from prior usage and held the wildfire. He had to do the regulator, and popped B4B/HE for it. But, his clear was not as good as Aiurily's. My group hasn't progressed past A7S yet so I can't give any personal feedback at this point, but I'm glad you brought it up, I'll post if I come across any good strategy info on it.
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    Last edited by Komoritane; 06-23-2016 at 04:10 PM.

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    I was checking out the gear of good players and I noticed that some players opt for Primal/Aug Primal rings instead of Midas/Aug Primal rings. What's the reason for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinSenpai View Post
    I was checking out the gear of good players and I noticed that some players opt for Primal/Aug Primal rings instead of Midas/Aug Primal rings. What's the reason for that?
    Secondary stats. The midan ring has a bunch of skill speed, and also accuracy. The primal ring has crit/det. So if you don't need the accuracy, might opt for the primal.
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    Holding RS seems like a good call since you only get one more anyway, and you may as well save it for the portion of the fight with a guaranteed burst window.

    For now I've just been doing a full opener (minus RS) and swapping over to the regulator midway if necessary. I'll still have half of the offensive cooldowns and half duration remaining on buffs (since Verdict finishes casting midway through the opener) which is enough to tide me over.

    Will have to get more pulls in to see if I can optimize it a little further. It sure feels bad though! What a terrible time for that mechanic for MCH.
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