Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

Kind of surprised how easy this stage of the anima weapon is, I can probably grind it out in one week relatively easily (2 from CT weekly, and 3 x 1800 eso). Just a shame it's still det/sks for this stage.

Makes me think I can probably hold off getting the lore weapon for another two weeks or so though (despite the det/sks, upgrade from i230 anima to i230 lore is smaller than upgrading prototype legs to lore legs).

[Empty-handed]

on a8s; where do you guys use 3rd wildfire (1st in the opener, 2nd on blaster).

3rd as of now im using it on brawler once he's hittable again after all the orbs are clear. im afraid to use it on vortexer/swindler cause i dont want to push their hp down.

and as my team gears up our melee/mage burn brawler pretty fast im afraid there will come a time where i wont be even able to to use it on brawler. (its currently around 3% when wildfire explodes). and i dont wanna delay it any further cause it wont come up for the brute justice phase.

sigh.

[Yellowskin]

Kind of surprised how easy this stage of the anima weapon is, I can probably grind it out in one week relatively easily (2 from CT weekly, and 3 x 1800 eso). Just a shame it's still det/sks for this stage.

Makes me think I can probably hold off getting the lore weapon for another two weeks or so though (despite the det/sks, upgrade from i230 anima to i230 lore is smaller than upgrading prototype legs to lore legs).

u should be able to get lore weapon already next reset?

[Aiurily]

on a8s; where do you guys use 3rd wildfire (1st in the opener, 2nd on blaster).

3rd as of now im using it on brawler once he's hittable again after all the orbs are clear. im afraid to use it on vortexer/swindler cause i dont want to push their hp down.

and as my team gears up our melee/mage burn brawler pretty fast im afraid there will come a time where i wont be even able to to use it on brawler. (its currently around 3% when wildfire explodes). and i dont wanna delay it any further cause it wont come up for the brute justice phase.

sigh.

wf vortexer/swindler with leadshot up while doing gcds on brawler

better than nothing

[Myon88]

u should be able to get lore weapon already next reset?

That's correct, however there's the opportunity cost of using 1000 lore to buy the lore weapon, which is that you're not spending it to buy something else (like the legs in my own case). So the answer is to compare both upgrades and see which one yields the bigger DPS increase.

Upgrading from i230 anima to i230 lore weapon (DET V x2) is,
-9 DET -114 SKS +114 CRIT

Upgrading from i220 prototype midan (DET IV x2) to i230 lore legs (CRIT IV x2) is,
-8 CRIT -79 DET +106 SKS +10 DEX +22 VIT

Basically it's 10 DEX 220 SKS vs 122 CRIT 70 DET

Personally I judge the leg upgrade to be the larger of the two just looking at the DPS stats, and the extra VIT is icing on the cake. I know the SKS is obviously the big red flag, but it's been mentioned by others that the SKS value in the op of this thread isn't particularly accurate (it's still not rated very highly mind you, but it's just not that low), and I have a couple of suspicions of my own.

[Velhart]

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I think another deciding factor is how far you are into the raids right now. If you are not clearing A7S any time soon and relic is just around the corner for you, sure you can put it towards other lore gear and get the relic gun. The upgrade to the ilvl240 gun is the obvious choice if you are close to that point.

[Davechan]

Ok so i've decided to stick with the machinist. But i'll be honest I feel like I do no damage when I compare him to my lower iLevel summoner.
Is there a starting point where I can start to get better? I just feel alot of my damage relies on RNG and i'm not sure other players get that....

[Myon88]

The upgrade to the ilvl240 gun is the obvious choice if you are close to that point.

Oh yes, if you have access to a gobdip then it's a foregone conclusion. I mean, I'd have thought A7S capable groups would already have gotten their base lore weapon long ago from A6S directly.

The i230 anima vs i230 lore comparison is more for middling statics like mine that are still clearing A6S - since next week is finally when everyone (else) will get to buy the i230 weapon with the 7x midan gears.

[Davechan]

If I can destroy the gordias stone sea sky dummy with 25 seconds to spare, will I potentially be doing fine dps in alex 4?
It just really put me off when they called me out on there parsing.

[Velhart]

If I can destroy the gordias stone sea sky dummy with 25 seconds to spare, will I potentially be doing fine dps in alex 4?
It just really put me off when they called me out on there parsing.

The whole thing with MCH is getting the best burst you can out of Wildfire and properly using your abilities to sustain your DPS afterwards. RNG does come heavy into play and one round you are getting a ridiculously high Wildfire, the next time, most of hits towards don't crit and get a lame Wildfire.

Each raid fight is different and you have to prioritize what abilities you use based on the situation. Like "Do I have time to wait for certain timers to make a bigger 2nd Wildfire? Or do I need to use it now before the boss jumps away?"

Like all jobs, knowing the fight and how it's pattern works is very important to keeping up that sustained DPS. If not, you are going to drop below others really fast.