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    Also where is MCN in terms of burst dpS I know that after burst they drop a lot. I've seen parse video of MCN bursting at 2.3k+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    so what's everyone highest dmg on WF? Also what's the basic rotation on adds if there's like 1 or 2?
    About the same as Shin Senpai, with DRG in party (no NIN) 8k-9.5k (no POT, but all other buffs) (4 Ammo opener)

    No DRG/no NIN 6.5k-7.4k

    i202 (i200 weapon)

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    Not sure what you mean for a basic rotation with adds. Like adds + boss or just individual adds that will die quick? You would still just follow the priority system since there's no real rotation for MCN.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 09-17-2015 at 11:39 PM.
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    I didn't do a lot of testing, but I never had very good results with the listed opener on the first page. When I have time today I'll do a bunch of parses to test again and share if I find what I've been doing to be better.
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    what exactly are you measuring, though, compared to what

    you're never gonna get an accurate comparison of 2 different openers from repeating them over and over; crit and damage variance is dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    what exactly are you measuring, though, compared to what

    you're never gonna get an accurate comparison of 2 different openers from repeating them over and over; crit and damage variance is dumb.
    Then there's nothing to test or reply about further.
    I was just comparing the wildfire numbers.
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    well, i'm not saying anything about any opener, but to properly "test" an opener vs another is to do it thousands of times which isn't realistic; so the next best option is just getting the numbers down on paper (which i'm not the type to get involved too much with)

    judging opener value based off of wildfire dmg isn't accurate though. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr2MUHBX8co . bad opener, but it nets you the highest wildfire damage hands down.
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 09-18-2015 at 09:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
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    Fair enough. ^^ Guess I'll just play around with the listed opener see if it helps my buffs line up better. Which it might as I've been popping my buffs after Hot and before Lead. Tho I don't seem to have any problems with them lining up either way.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    If I could make a suggestion, for the final Split Shot on the opener people with higher latency probably won't be able to fit in the cast time. To get around this I've swapped in Feint for the instant cast goodness.
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    just take gauss off and do that split shot, then put it back on whenever
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    I'm talking to people with high latency - taking Gauss Off and doing the split can still be too much.
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