Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Inuk9]

What should I meld in MCH? Full determination or should I put little critical strike?

[LunarEmerald]

What should I meld in MCH? Full determination or should I put little critical strike?

Critical hit rate is the best secondary. Determination second.

[Inuk9]

Critical hit rate is the best secondary. Determination second.

I've heard turrets damage scales big time with determination. Does someone already done the math?

[Greedalox]

I've heard turrets damage scales big time with determination. Does someone already done the math?

Yes the math has been done up and down. The turret does scale quite well with Determination itself but your turret alone is actually a relatively small part of your damage. Crit is definitely the best secondary stat.

Accuracy(To 100% hit) > Crit > Det > Sk.S

[Risaka]

Machinists, how do you guys make use of the 2nd Wildfire that comes up?

When I try out the Stone, Sky, Sea dummy it seems to be better not holding cooldowns like BFB and Hawk's Eye together for the 2nd Wildfire as it will result in lower dps, or am I wrong and I should hold out BFB and Hawk's Eye for 2nd Wildfire? Rapid Fire comes back during that time as well but I will not have any Reload/Reassemble up and definitely not Hypercharge.

[Velhart]

Machinists, how do you guys make use of the 2nd Wildfire that comes up?

When I try out the Stone, Sky, Sea dummy it seems to be better not holding cooldowns like BFB and Hawk's Eye together for the 2nd Wildfire as it will result in lower dps, or am I wrong and I should hold out BFB and Hawk's Eye for 2nd Wildfire? Rapid Fire comes back during that time as well but I will not have any Reload/Reassemble up and definitely not Hypercharge.

It entirely depends on your raid situation. For the dummy itself, it is better to wait for Reload to line up with Wildfire, Rapid Shot, BfB, and Hawk's Eye. Should only be waiting roughly an extra 30 seconds and your Hypercharge should be ready also. Only thing that won't be ready is Raging Strikes. For times you do not get that luxury. Just make sure BfB and Hawk's Eye are both up before using Wildfire/Rapid Shot and try to have some oGCD's ready for it.

That is what I do at least, unless someone wants to jump in and be like "Err gahd no what are you doing!? Stahp!!"

[Yellowskin]

Machinists, how do you guys make use of the 2nd Wildfire that comes up?

When I try out the Stone, Sky, Sea dummy it seems to be better not holding cooldowns like BFB and Hawk's Eye together for the 2nd Wildfire as it will result in lower dps, or am I wrong and I should hold out BFB and Hawk's Eye for 2nd Wildfire? Rapid Fire comes back during that time as well but I will not have any Reload/Reassemble up and definitely not Hypercharge.

For my second wf on a dummy i just usually wait for hyper charge so that means reapply lead shot once more and then next time u use your hypercharge and then 2nd WF. and dont hold back on any cds higher than 60 seconds but hold on the rest. untill 2nd wf.

[Myon88]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

[Judge_Xero]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

You'd definitely want to go that route. Probably a solid 5 DEX worth of stats.

[Aiurily]

Random question but how do people feel about the 240 Midan Ring vs the 230 Primal Ring in our BIS lists? The reason I mention the 230 version is because presumably you can wear both the 240 and 230 version at the same time - you just need to upgrade the one you have first, so you don't get the 'no duplicate items' error when buying.

Assuming we can get by without the acc (flank cap seems pretty low this tier, A8S frontal is 705 or so), it seems like a pretty close call - 34crit 47det vs 5dex 35acc 51sks

the difference either way iirc is around 0.5 dex towards i230 ring if the acc is low enough to support it

here's what i'd probably use for bis flank with midan ring

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TI3U

then this is what it'd look like if you swapped midan ring out with i230 ring

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/TICF

you'd use pipira instead of staff, and replace a det V materia with acc V, putting you at 691 acc.



if 691 is enough for flank, it becomes

31 crit 35 det vs 5 dex 67 sksp

which, with the jp weights is 12.6 vs 12.102

if 691 acc is not enough for flank and you have to put another acc V in, then it becomes 31 crit 23 det vs 5 dex 67 sksp; 10.512 vs 12.102.