Lock and Load: The Reassembled Machinist Guide

[Myon88]

I am just trying to evaluate the pros and cons of the new opener compared to the old.

The way I see it, it seems fairly safe to say that getting a 7th Hypercharged turret shot (vs 6), is worth almost any sacrifice you make - since an extra ~3 seconds of vulnerability debuff on the boss for the whole raid is extremely valuable. Which means any opener we're considering now must be able to make that happen.

[GB off] BFB, HE, RS, Hypercharge,
Hot Shot, [GB on] + Potion
Lead Shot...

which Aiurily mentioned on p32 seems to be pretty much the only case where you can activate Hypercharge prepull and still get 7 shots. And only because it's the very last thing you cast before the pull, and you have GB off so you can Hot Shot instantly to put yourself (and your turret) into combat.

BFB, HE, RS,
Hot Shot, Hypercharge + Potion
Lead Shot...

This one seems to be the only other spot it can go into in our regular opener, which is after Hot Shot and before Lead Shot, because you absolutely want that vulnerability debuff up on the enemy before Lead Shot hits it. This one definitely has issues with GCD clipping because there's no way you can fit Hypercharge and Potion between those two skills.

BFB, HE, RS,
Gauss Round, Hypercharge,
Hot Shot, Potion
Lead Shot, Reload
Split, Wildfire
Slug, Reassemble
Clean, Quick Reload, Rapid Fire
Split, Ricochet
Slug, Head Graze
Split, Blank
Clean, Gauss Round
Slug

The old double GR opener I used to try, which got a tiny buff relative to other openers since GR has 20 more potency. I won't push it on anyone, but I'm personally a little interested in it again because it 1. produces a 7-shot Hypercharge and 2. Doesn't cause any GCD clipping issues since you're not trying to fit both Hypercharge and Potion in the same space.

Honestly I don't really know which is best right now, they all have pros and cons.

[Ephier]

BFB, HE, RS,
Hot Shot, Hypercharge + Potion
Lead Shot...This one seems to be the only other spot it can go into in our regular opener, which is after Hot Shot and before Lead Shot, because you absolutely want that vulnerability debuff up on the enemy before Lead Shot hits it. This one definitely has issues with GCD clipping because there's no way you can fit Hypercharge and Potion between those two skills.

Yea, thats the one I have been trying out. I am still surprised that it does not work in some of the 2.0 areas, I guess that doesn't matter moving forward as everything will be 3.0.


The old double GR opener I used to try, which got a tiny buff relative to other openers since GR has 20 more potency. I won't push it on anyone, but I'm personally a little interested in it again because it 1. produces a 7-shot Hypercharge and 2. Doesn't cause any GCD clipping issues since you're not trying to fit both Hypercharge and Potion in the same space.

BFB, HE, RS,
Gauss Round, Hypercharge,
Hot Shot, Potion
Lead Shot, Reload
Split, Wildfire
Slug, Reassemble
Clean, Quick Reload, Rapid Fire
Split, Ricochet
Slug, Head Graze
Split, Blank
Clean, Gauss Round
Slug

The old double GR opener I used to try, which got a tiny buff relative to other openers since GR has 20 more potency. I won't push it on anyone, but I'm personally a little interested in it again because it 1. produces a 7-shot Hypercharge and 2. Doesn't cause any GCD clipping issues since you're not trying to fit both Hypercharge and Potion in the same space.

This I might look into. The clipping is so uncomfortable. ;o;

[Myon88]

I think the general rule of thumb in extended fights is to just use stuff on cooldown and deal with the mildfires. You don't want to potentially lose a usage of a cooldown over the duration of the fight because you held it for too long.

I say 'potentially', because it's definitely possible that there's an encounter out there right now where holding cooldowns like that might be a net gain in DPS - but frankly it's a lot of work to figure out and I doubt anyone could tell you for sure just like that. On top of that these things are gear dependant too, as your raid gets more geared, bosses hit phase transitions faster and that can change timings very significantly.

Personally I just use things on cooldown and don't think too much, unless it's a really obvious scenario like Stone, Sky, Sea.

[Hanmerreborn]

So what are your guys opinions on the crafted 220 vs eso vs prototype? Is the ability to have 5 materia slots over 2/1 worth it with the availability of grade 5 materia or is the 10 or so dex difference (compared to eso) the defining choice.

[Empty-handed]

Sephirot is a horrible fight. I hate it. I have no idea how bards will do it with the heavy movement required. Same for m1s.

M1s mechanics will require u to run from corner to corner to the very edge of the arena. The whole fight the party is moving around. Ammo management is very important.

In terms of dps buff and sustained dps. I don't feel they solved the problem. U still get dry runs hoping for 1 to proc -,- 1 1 1 1

[Myon88]

Random tidbit that those of you who don't PvP might have missed, but the new i205 PvP gun they added in 3.2 has a pretty neat revolver model. It's dyeable too!

They removed all PvP rank requirements from gear this patch, so for glamour purposes anyone can farm it up in a ~week of doing the daily frontline.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'm really wanting to get it this time. Though I also really want the top. . . Rgh! Can't decide!

I will however make a more active effort to PvP this patch cycle. Both Feast and Frontlines.

[Aiurily]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SQEO

my idea of what BiS will be

no melds at all other than an acc V on boots, since it should be there 100%

meld priority is

1. acc to cap (on slots that you would do Det V on)
2. crit
3. det

food should be either baked pipira or steamed staff (wow fish is so good). i pick steamed staff because i like the 656~ sksp range; baked pipira will let you get more crit/det overall though, since you can use the excess accuracy to meld less acc V

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figuring bis out sort of nice and easy honestly. prioritize pieces with crit/det, minimize skill speed, then use acc V melds to get to acc cap while maximizing crit V melds, followed by det V. shouldn't be any room to meld any skill speed with this priority; though i'll end up personally melding just a bit of skill speed over det depending on how it makes ability timings go

[Myon88]

Something else I've been thinking about in 3.2, is that now that Hypercharge lasts 20 seconds, the vulnerability debuff is on the target for almost 30 seconds.

That is the same length as the duration of Lead Shot, if you do an opener llike this,

Hot Shot, Hypercharge
Lead Shot..

That first Lead Shot will be at ~3 seconds left when the vulnerability debuff finally falls off the boss. What I'm getting at here is it might be favourable to refresh Lead Shot slightly ahead of time (you'll lose the very last DoT tick) in order to get one entire new 30 second Lead Shot that is boosted by Hypercharge's vulnerability debuff.

I've been looking at DoT ticks on the dummy and as long as the initial hit of Lead Shot lands when the vulnerability debuff is still on the target, the entire duration of Lead Shot gets the damage boost. So even if the vulnerability debuff is falling off in 1 second, if you land a Lead Shot you get that damage boost for all the ticks, long after the debuff is gone.

And if that's the case, there's a small benefit to putting Hypercharge as close to Lead Shot as possible so you don't overwrite more than one tick (because the earlier you Hypercharge, the sooner the debuff falls off, and you don't want it to fall off too much sooner than Lead Shot).

[Aiurily]

snip.

1 opener lead shot tick missed - bfb 1.1 he 1.15 rs 1.2 hc 1.1 dex pot 1.1 = 1.836~ modifier before gb and stuff. 1 tick lost=82.62 potency lost before litany
lead shot potency after hc early clip - 539, +49 potency (before gb and stuff)

neat concept though