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    Does anyone have images of what the i210 Machinist Boots look like dyed? Any colour will do, but I'm really curious what it looks like with metallic silver dye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Does anyone have images of what the i210 Machinist Boots look like dyed? Any colour will do, but I'm really curious what it looks like with metallic silver dye.
    That is hard to find since the boots are not BiS and people are not putting their upgrade item towards it.
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    Yeah I suppose it's a longshot - I think I could see myself doing it though.. I might be all serious business in raids, but that glamour I even have matching minions and bardings for all my outfits.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 10-13-2015 at 11:30 PM.

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    Hey guys I have a question on a4s. Regarding tp/mp torrent management.

    1st transition Tp, 2nd tp, 3rd tp... Then after the first doll explode on the 4th leg, I m planning to mp regen till the dolls spawn again. Then mp again during the last transition.

    However. It seems really tough for whm to deal with the massive mp loss after the first doll on the second leg. Should I mp promo there?

    I don't have mp to promo too and we need to kill the 3rd leg asap.
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    Last edited by Empty-handed; 10-19-2015 at 01:58 PM.

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    it really depends on your strategy

    in my group we let 3rd leg's straf doll cast wirbelwind, but we kill the 4th leg's 2nd straf doll. i play hypercharged mana until discoid's fracture hits, then i swap to playing TP and i sac. before that, i play no mana at all on a clean run.

    your healers should be able to deal with the mana loss without help from you, though. if not, it's on them, and you playing mana is simply catering to their deficiency. other than the hypercharge mana in 4th leg->last phase transition, stopping after discoid's fracture, (on a clean run, again) i never play mana again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post
    stuff
    Gonna bother you for another a4s-related q:
    How's your cd-usage overall?
    we've not gotten to 4th one yet cleanly due to stuff takin place over raids but ye..
    on 2nd leg, do you wait until quarantine for WF-combo?
    do you need to use cds for small dolls (if you are assigned to one)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zandervont View Post
    Gonna bother you for another a4s-related q:
    How's your cd-usage overall?
    we've not gotten to 4th one yet cleanly due to stuff takin place over raids but ye..
    on 2nd leg, do you wait until quarantine for WF-combo?
    do you need to use cds for small dolls (if you are assigned to one)?
    my cd usage is gonna be vastly different, because we'll have different raid dps. so don't follow this 100% or anything; it's just how i did my cds (not necessarily the best way, i don't know either way though) for a4s progression. anyway
    progression cd usage went like

    1st wildfire - everything
    2nd reload/rico/reassemble - on cd. happens around 15% on 1st leg or lower depending on DPS. if quarantined, just use it on the quarantine asap.
    3rd wildfire - delay it. it will come up for the 2nd leg, but do hot shot>lead shot with no buffs or anything, then do a wildfire opener with reload+reassemble+rico+hypercharge once you're about to reapply your 1st leadshot on 2nd leg. this way you avoid quarantine 100%. gambling with wildfire vs quarantine makes things really troublesome. if you get quarantined here, do it out of quarantine asap.

    4th reload/rico/reassemble - pop reload right as the manipulator goes invuln after 2nd leg. you're gonna waste ammo on hotshot/leadshot like this, but it's worth it for the end goal. use clean reassemble+ricochet on the 3rd leg asap
    4th wildfire+5th reload+all buffs- this should all come up after you finish feeding adds to the straf doll. it's safest to do this after carnage (so that you can bfb safely and also don't need to move). this burst is pretty important in 3rd leg. the reason you use reload/rico/reassemble weirdly earlier is so that it lines up for this, while you still get effectively 2 uses of reload/rico/reassemble on 3rd leg when aiming for 1 set of adds

    6th reload/rico/reassemble - on 1st set of 4th leg adds.
    5th wildfire - on 4th leg after your add is fed when you go into hot/lead reapplication. if you pot on opener, dex pot will be up here. if not, ignore this.
    7th reload/rico/reassemble - on 2nd set of 4th leg adds

    6th wildfire+8th reload/rico/reassemble - last phase. pot will be up here if you pop it on 3rd leg iirc

    from there the it deviates a ton, but theres also no breaks/disconnects anymore so you can figure out whats best for you personally at that point

    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyBlasters View Post
    Hi Aiurily, you seem to know a lot about whm's, may I ask what form of regen you would suggest after each doll and whatkind of healing you would expect with that kind of mp assuming no mp regen from a mch, considering this statement "your healers should be able to deal with the mana loss without help from you, though. if not, it's on them,".
    i never said anything about how to play WHM w

    i just said, exactly, "your healers should be able to deal with the mana loss without help from you, though. if not, it's on them, and you playing mana is simply catering to their deficiency."

    my reasoning is just based on experience and observations. i know 3 groups where the healers don't need mana at that point on 3rd leg. i dunno what they're doing gcd by gcd or how they manage their manage with ethers or refreshes; i just know that all of them do it well enough that they don't need mp on the 3rd leg. 4th and final phase is different per group; my own group's healers don't need mana other than 15s HC mana+15s~ normal mana in last phase, for the entire fight. so from my pov, the majority of clearing healers don't need mana at that point, and that's why i said that you should not need mana at that same point.
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 10-20-2015 at 11:40 AM.

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    Hi Aiurily, you seem to know a lot about whm's, may I ask what form of regen you would suggest after each doll and whatkind of healing you would expect with that kind of mp assuming no mp regen from a mch, considering this statement "your healers should be able to deal with the mana loss without help from you, though. if not, it's on them,".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyBlasters View Post
    .
    the thing about the loss of mana in A4S is that it's 100% planned around, losing your entire MP pool sounds terrible at first but when you save your resource skills for them it's really not that bad.
    It also allows you to be really careless about your mana leading UP to wirbelwind casts, since essentially any mana you're still sitting on as it casts is "wasted", so you're free to burn it all away however you'd like.

    for BRD I really only need to play battlevoice MP song at the same time as said above, leg 4 after the 2nd straf because the WHM needs mana for at least 1 res at pentacle.

    Healers are not designed to run out of mana in an efficient group unless the healer themselves is playing incorrectly. There are extraneous situations like deaths and group mistakes that can kill your MP, but that's not on the healer.
    You plan your GCDs and CDs as a healer just like anyone else, TP is a lot more straightforward to (heavy quotes) "manage" but healers aren't really so different.
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    Last edited by aabe; 10-21-2015 at 07:31 PM.

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    Thanks Aiurily for the response. We are trying again tonight. ^^;
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