Good ol' RNG

[Drako]

I've had similar bad luck with A1, just looking for a bolt last week. Granted its not nearly as bad as yours but the RNG rain cloud followed me in a unusual manner. I ran it on wed and thurs, so many times I nearly capped my eso tomes on it. I only had two experts in to that point. I must of went 25 times, I'll admit I didn't keep track. But it was all i did for two evenings. But the funny part is. I broke down and joined a A1 farm group. Because I know that "usually" you will come away with your drop. The first drop there were two bolts. Both my rolls on them were below 10. We ran it 5 times. I was the last person that even needed anything in the group. So I was guaranteed my drop. But as surprising as it might be, and unbelievable, I rolled a 99 on the loot. I was completely floored. I must of had this maniacal laugh going on for 10 mins. And spent the next two days telling the story to my FC over and over again. Because of how insanely stupid it was. I know during all those DF runs I had many many rolls below 10, and kept feeling depressed.

I wish there was some kind of system that could detect your rolling on the same loot over the course of a week, and gradually increase the RNG curve, thereby increasing your chances over time. The only thing this could potentially cause a problem with is the number of runs you get where you get it on the first try, because so many other people have there RNG curve increased in your group. But in the end I think it would be more beneficial that way.

[16bitBounty]

It took me 12 hours and 15 minutes one day and approximately 4 hours the next day to get the Orthodox Gauntlets of Fending, just the gloves, nothing else.. I am now trying to get the final piece of gear Orthodox Thighboots of Casting, which somehow I lost on greed rolls every single time it came up the entire time I was after the gauntlets of fending. I would either roll less than a 20 or there would be a BLM/SMN that would need on them every time. I am now 8 hours of DPS runs and no thighboots. RNG is a joke.

[AriaEnia]

Tried to get bolts last night. A1 10 runs, not even rolled 25+.
Oh well, let's get the spring or shaft before I go to sleep.
Ran A4 9 times, my rolls didnt even reach 50 on shaft.
on the 9th run, rolled 89, wow nice...!
Then someone rolled 94.
19 runs last night.

[AlphaFox]

People still run Alex normal?

Kidding aside, yeah it can be a cruel mistress but we never complain when she plays in our favor.....even if I didn't need that item I randomly clicked greed on.

[Cherie]

In alex normal duty finder, whatever item you want, everyone is gonna roll on it and the rest will hit the floor.

Once you have given into the despair of that, you are set free. :P

But seriously, if I want a bolt, then everyone rolls on bolt. Next week, I want something else, well that thing is the only thing people want. I've accepted it. I mean, I don't need to go. I'm like working on a 3rd job now. Mostly I just go to cap eso's and maybe gear some job I'll never play.

[ServerCollaps]

21 A3 runs, rolled on 31 springs and didn't roll higher than a 30 on any of them. Does Yoshi really think this is fun?

for your partymember it surely was


join a 3 run farmgroup if you want ensured loot...

[Nektulos-Tuor]

26 Sohm Ai Runs, no Greatsword.
1 Sohm Ai Run on this character, Greatsword first try.

Don't need it on this character.

[hagare]

try rolling 87 to be beaten by a 98

[Yukiko]

21 A3 runs, rolled on 31 springs and didn't roll higher than a 30 on any of them. Does Yoshi really think this is fun?

Not so long ago they fixed a bug with RNG in FFX / X-2 HD...
In all FF games you could influence RNG a bit (more or less)...
I am not sure if they are using the same one for FFXIV too, but here a nice quote:

The rng in this game functions in the same manner it did in all the final fantasies up to XII. The game simply has a giant internal data sheet of numbers that it cycles through. I'm really actually surprised more people on this board don't already understand how it works, it was a huge deal and almost necessary if you tried to 100% complete ffxii.

The rng in this game functions in the same manner it did in all the final fantasies up to XII. The game simply has a giant internal data sheet of numbers that it cycles through. I'm really actually surprised more people on this board don't already understand how it works, it was a huge deal and almost necessary if you tried to 100% complete ffxii.

Say you attack some stupid enemy. The game will source from this data file the base 'rng' roll from the current position in the data file that it then uses in the rest of the attack damage calculation. It'll then move to the next set of variables in the file. Each set in the file has a predetermined number for any rng based action in the game. How many steps till the next encounter, which enemy formation it loads, death spell success, everything. As it uses up variables and moves through the data file, it gives the illusion of true randomness, but it really isn't.

The thing about it though, is the file is huge. Probably thousands of strings long, making it nearly impossible to predict what is going to happen next. And the game has a few of these files it picks one of each time you play.

What's happening with the bug is every time you start the game it's starting over at the beginning of the same rng file every time you load. Hence making what should be unpredictable predictable. That's the basic idea of what's going on with the rng. Why it's happening I have no clue.

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[DukeBurden]

RNG is a necessary evil for video games. It's a gate that extends the life of content. You can either roll the dice and take the chance OR they can make you earn it... by saying after 100 clears, you're guaranteed a drop.