Crafting is fun!

[Gilthas]

Are you seriously complaining about the "grind" to the system? leveling crafts is the most easy thing you can do in game, its blazing fast. What grind you talkin about?

The grind was never in leveling up your DoL and DoH, the grind came after you reached 50 (now 60) with getting better gear. The grind comes from getting materials to actually craft stuff.

Just look at the items you needed to gather and craft for GC daily turn-ins at level 50, and compare them to the stuff you need in Heavensward. And this is just basic stuff. If you don't see how the grind was multiplied by a factor of 3 or more I don't know how to explain it to you.

Im saying 2 simple things here which you totally twisted and didnt understand apparently.
1) there must be a reason to craft something
2) if there are HQ items, there must be a value added to that.

There has always been a reason to craft something: using your own gear and items. You don't need to sell stuff for DoL and DoH to have a reason to exist. That's the problem of your logic and the reason why DoL and DoH have been turned to crap.

Like I said, I'm all for DoH being able to craft BiS gear. But before that can happen, players gathering their own mats and crafting their own gear needs to be a real option. It currently isn't for the overwhelming majority of the playerbase. That's the real problem with DoL and DoH.