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  1. #21
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I signed in about 3 and a half hours ago with a plan to do a different craft (leatherworker). I didn't have the money to make the item for the Grand Company. I don't have gil to do any leves to level it. All I could do was the challenge logs. Cheap materia melds on leather items and the HQ thing I did by making just animal leather. I just feel like there's too much to take in. It's not easy juggling all these materials needed, all the gathering and then making good enough collectables to cap.

    I'm really starting to feel totally out of my depth with this game now.
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  2. #22
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    Caimie_Tsukino's Avatar
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    I signed in about 3 and a half hours ago with a plan to do a different craft (leatherworker). I didn't have the money to make the item for the Grand Company. I don't have gil to do any leves to level it. All I could do was the challenge logs. Cheap materia melds on leather items and the HQ thing I did by making just animal leather. I just feel like there's too much to take in. It's not easy juggling all these materials needed, all the gathering and then making good enough collectables to cap.

    I'm really starting to feel totally out of my depth with this game now.
    Firstly, where did you try to acquire your mats? You do know the LTW Guild Supplier and your FC house vendor sells VERY cheap mats right? I hope you're not buying anything from the MB.

    Secondly, how the heck would you have money to meld materia if you don't even have money to get mats for crafting? It makes no sense to me... You supposed to be selling HQ crafted items to earn gils for materia, and melding materia should be the very last luxury thing to do.

    Leveling LTW supposed to EARN you gil, not deplete your gil.
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  3. #23
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    A few intelligence 1 materias into cheap level 15 duckbills of gathering...
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  4. #24
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    Endless Paradox
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Stop over thinking it.
    Just focus on one red scrip item and just prep for it over the course of a week so you can hand them in on mass like everyone else.
    How's your rotation? How many times have you managed to cap? You should have most of your CUL red script gear by now no? I assume you'd spend them on that and nothing else.

    In terms of leveling your LTW and making some money I would recommend Dhalmel Leather and Dragon Leather assuming you have a botanist and a battle class retainer to get you the skins and logs as it costs you nothing but ventures and crystals.

    Most important thing I found: If you don't use your retainers on CD and you don't plan ahead you are gonna have a bad time regardless of what you craft for redscrips, you also should be listing at least something to sell on a daily basis sounds like you've been haemorrhaging gil for a long time.
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  5. #25
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    TechnoTechie. If that's all you can say in a post where I'm trying to look for potential solutions is pathetic. Of course I'm angry. I leveled a role which was badly disadvantaged, even after a patch. How was I supposed to know. I cannot read minds.
    Your potential solution is level another god damned crafter so you can complain about -buying materials- instead of -crafting too much-
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  6. #26
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    TechnoTechie's Avatar
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    Techno Techie
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    Leviathan
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    I signed in about 3 and a half hours ago with a plan to do a different craft (leatherworker). I didn't have the money to make the item for the Grand Company. I don't have gil to do any leves to level it. All I could do was the challenge logs. Cheap materia melds on leather items and the HQ thing I did by making just animal leather. I just feel like there's too much to take in. It's not easy juggling all these materials needed, all the gathering and then making good enough collectables to cap.

    I'm really starting to feel totally out of my depth with this game now.
    I see that your LTW is 58 now. What crafting gear are you using for this? If crafting gear is an issue, you can get a leg up by using your CUL to get decent blue scrip crafting gear so that you can start HQing things a lot easier at your level. As a side note, you might want to level WVR as well so that you can make the other crafting gear.

    If you haven't leveled a battle retainer, I would highly suggest doing so -- you can get 75% (rough estimate, since you'll need some botanist mats as well -- but I see you also have a level 60 botanist) of your materials (aside from crystals) from a battle class retainer for LTW. I can see where your issues are coming from if you thought that your retainer wasn't worth leveling though. You have a botanist, you can get crystals that way or have your retainer gathering crystals. You now have everything at your disposal to make leve or GC turn-in items. Total gil spent? a few ventures, which, if you're doing it right shouldn't cost you any money at all.

    Having trouble gathering high level items? why not spend a little bit of time for blue scrips and upgrading those forager pieces with blue scrip gear -- again, 0 gil spent.
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  7. #27
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    BTW, note that the turn-ins for RCS change at 1PM Pacific each day, but the weekly reset is at 1AM Pacific on Thursday.
    So whatever is listed for turn-ins the afternoon before the reset will be the turn-in the next morning (after reset) as well.

    I usually look at the turn-in Wednesday evening and if one is particularly attractive I will make them up Wednesday night.
    I then turn them in Thursday morning.

    For evaluating the turn-ins for material needed and number of cafts required for each, I like to use Garland Tools.
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  8. #28
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I managed to get like 40 red scripts today from the morel salad. Managed to get a the 4000 quality needed. But to be honest. I'm now kinda torn on weather to level fisher to help the culinarian. Or to use my leatherworker as mentioned above. I think in all honesty I have been overthinking it abit. But I wished the script cap was removed to prevent the worry of losing a week. This is the first time I gained red scripts.
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  9. #29
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    On my culinarian and leatherworker I have the blue script armor. Culinarian has HQ Adamantite Tool and main.
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  10. #30
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    Buckles Trespen
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    Behemoth
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I pondered, and liked the idea of, special recipes that are asked for for red / blue scrips that, unlike the current system, would not require all those nasty, expensive, irritating secondary and tertiary required materials. Instead, these special recipes would only call for the use of the primary, level relevant material of that craft - birch lumber, adamantite ingots, morels, ect. for level 60. These would be used in balanced quantities so that no one craft comes ahead of another.


    Such recipes would be something along the lines of Storm-Hardened Adamantite Ingot, Shrubbery of Morel, blah-blah-creativity-blah. Used only for scrip turn ins like the Beast Tribe crafting recipies were used for quest turn ins - only we have to gather (buy) the materials instead of being given them by those blessed Ixal.

    Make up a better, flashy name for the special recipes - and boom, no more BSM going insane buying exorbitant amounts of glue or wood, no more CULs swearing and sweating doing 5x the crafts as their ALC counterparts.

    When new tiers of Red / Blue? / Green / Indigo scrips are added, the devs come up with a few new recipes per craft and add them to the scrip crafting section al la Beast Tribe recipes.

    End of story. Easy peasy.
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