Solution for crafting red scripts.

[LongsunZhao]

And before you kick off again. I had to Subscribe in order to post in here!

[TechnoTechie]

All I see you do is dismiss others' suggestions and complain about how bad culinarian is, when it was the best before they buffed other classes. They didn't nerf culinarian, they simply buffed the other classes so that they had competitive gains in 3.05 -- so that they were getting the same value for the materials gathered. And I don't know about your server, but CUL materials are far cheaper on my server, and CUL crafts far more profitable. Why not use that higher profitability to purchase mats for red scrips? That's what I've done the past few weeks: sold CUL crafts and used that gil to fund my red scrips.

That being said, you don't need to create multiple threads complaining about the exact same thing and to say that you're "quitting the game until x is fixed" when it wasn't that broken to begin with, especially when I know you won't even consider a solution that's been working for me.

[Silverbane]

Of course I'm angry. I leveled a role which was badly disadvantaged, even after a patch.

Pre-patch, Culinarian was by far the best way to get Red scrip. Now, it's merely on par: more but simpler and cheaper turn-ins.

If that, in a game, makes you ANGRY, then you perhaps are taking this game too seriously.
Or perhaps you are not taking it seriously enough, since you refuse to level other crafting classes.

The game is what SE says it is. It change when SE changes it. You know that going in. To expect any different is irrational. To get angry because they corrected an imbalance that heavily favored CUL is unjustified.

It's a game. If you aren't enjoying it, either change how you play or stop playing.

[LongsunZhao]

I leveled my Culinarian BEFORE Red Scripts was released. And also. I have all crafts except Blacksmith, the others are all level 50. I have two gatherers. 60 Botanist. 54 Miner and 35 Fisher. So yes. Its my fault. I leveled Culinary on the knowledge I'd get 9 Red Scripts. How was I supposed to know they would do this? And as for Techno. You wonder why I blank you. Your attitude stinks! After weeks you write, "Waiting until he quits again". That's what I see and you wonder why I don't bother reading it.

[AnimaS]

Sue SE for Infliction of emotional distress.

[PotatoWafflez]

So my question is why are you having so much trouble?

You can make Morel Salad for 9 scrips correct?
Get your retainer to gather you 150 Brich sap every week turn it into Brich Syrup do the leve "Let's Not Get Sappy" which can give you x2 Morel as a reward do this 50 times you just got all the Morel you need for the week and 49,400gil without gathering or you can gather the node 7 times with Blessed harvest II, a combonation of both is probably best though as you might get bouillon cubes instead at times from the leve.
You then only need to gather 4 nodes of Young Cieldalaes Spinach to get your 50 for the week using Blessed harvest II netting you 15 spinach a node.
Sesame seeds should be cheap as chips on the market board.
La Noscean Lettuce you can grab from a vendor for 19gil = 950gil
Olive Oil you can get from the Sahagin vendor for 8gil = 400gil
Emerald Beans is the only thing that might cause you a hassle because its a hidden item but if you have some friends who can help you out then you are sorted at no loss.

Congrats you just capped for the week and earned a profit of 48,050gil if you did the leves which you could probably use to cover the cost of the beans and seeds.
The only downside is you only get 42 leves a week so you will lose 8 leves a week if you don't gather morel at all.

Either way: hardly any gathering at all you don't even need to do it all in one day and it doesn't use anything you haven't already leveled.
If you are telling me that doing 4-11 gathering nodes a week is too much work then I am worried about you.

[TechnoTechie]

I leveled my Culinarian BEFORE Red Scripts was released.

And that should have been to your advantage. As Silverbane stated, Culinarian was the best method of getting red scrips pre-patch, so I don't know why you're saying that you were disadvantaged before the patch.

And also. I have all crafts except Blacksmith, the others are all level 50. I have two gatherers. 60 Botanist. 54 Miner and 35 Fisher. So yes. Its my fault. I leveled Culinary on the knowledge I'd get 9 Red Scripts.

9 scrips for a morel salad was amazing, when you had to submit 15 adamantite ore worth of nuggets for the same 9 scrips as a blacksmith or armorer.

How was I supposed to know they would do this? And as for Techno. You wonder why I blank you. Your attitude stinks! After weeks you write, "Waiting until he quits again". That's what I see and you wonder why I don't bother reading it.

I guess I am at fault for assuming your future actions will follow suit of your previous ones, and I didn't say that in my most recent post. I'm saying that's what a lot of your other posts said in various other threads, and so I thought there was a pattern going on, but I guess I'm wrong. Also, it wasn't me that posted solutions; Other people in the community posted some wonderful ones that I started following, and those have worked for me to make red scrips less painful.

Perhaps if you took a moment to read other's comments (not mine. There are much better solutions than any I've posted) instead of being blinded by your rage, you might see something that works for you.

[Mature]

Red scrips should not be a weekly thing. Either make them like blue scrips or make red scrips as a daily reset.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

CUL for Red Scrips (e.g. Deep-Fried Okeanis):
Although it take 4x to 5x more items than other classes, it requires ZERO gathering time by human hands. All mats either from vendor or from retainer. Base cost is very low.

BSM for Red Scrips (e.g. Adamantite Greatsword):
Although each sword earns a great deal of scrips (~50), you need to spend time gathering Adamantite Ore (you need to follow unspoiled nodes spawn time). The sword needs 4 adam nuggets, = 20 ores -> every 4 runs of adam ore gathering can only get you 3 swords. If you need to make 9 swords to max 450 scrips, you will need to do 12 unspoiled gathering runs. Let's not forget the Darksteel Ore you need to make the nuggets. There goes another Unspoiled run for Darksteel. You also need to spend time gathering Titanium Ore (retainers cannot obtain hidden items) for Titanium Ingots. Then you need to spend time to craft these adam nuggets, titanium nuggets, and then turn titanium nuggets into ingots. You will also need Scale Glue, which is a difficult item to craft from ALC. You will also need an Amphiptere Leather from LTW and a Birch Lumber from CRP... even if you have all these classes, you still need to spend time to craft every single item, before you can craft your greatsword.

In the end, UNLESS you buy all the mats, or have them pre-made before your red scrips day, the time you need to spend on the greatsword is not anything less than a Deep-Fried Okeanis.... Actually, the time spent is probably even more!

[LongsunZhao]

It's just so hard. I'm not making any Gil to buy materials. I have like about 2000 Gil and made zero since returning. The main problem that I hate is why I have to gather for days to craft for a few mins. Its not the right way to level a craft. So yeah. I'll go and farm them. It will take absolute days. And I really don't want to. If I'm leveling crafting I should use crafting. Not botanist or whatever else.