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    Player
    Shori's Avatar
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    Ryan Shori
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloKing View Post
    This is a joke, right? That male hairstyle winner?

    Like, SE is messing with us... theres no way they'd actually waste their time with that one...right?... please?
    While the contest may have been a joke, that entry was in my top 3 so I''m happy it won. My own entry was similar from the front (but shaved lower-back) so I look forward to it being in game to use on my alt.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    That male hair is ugly as all sin, looks like another hairstyle i'll be ignoring.

    Would of much rather had the hairstyle that looked like Bart from xenogears But with hair behind him and one bang front.

    That short hair looks a little to girlish for my taste that won.
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    Happy about the male hair!
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Congrats to the winners!

    It's sad that I didn't realize you could 'unlike' on the forums. I liked all the ones that I liked (go figure), and then found out only the last one gets my vote. I actually prefer the runner up to the winner, but the winner got my vote
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    Honey Lullaby
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    The voting is flawed because they used a flawed way of tallying I guess. If they wanted actual voting with one answer per person than they should have used a poll like everyone else in the world would have. However, they used a "like" system and though I am sure some people disagree, but I still think the winners should have been the ones with the most "likes". You can't give people the option to "like" multiple things and then afterwards tell them that they can only have one "like". I think it's ok to like more than one thing. An ice cream analogy was used already so I'll continue with that. If I have 5 people with me and ask them how many of them like vanilla and all 5 of them say they do and then ask the same for chocolate and 3 people say they like it, guess what, 5/5 people still like vanilla. Don't use a "like" system if what you're really after is votes. It's not the same thing and it's ok for people to like more than one hairstyle, most of them were really nice and took effort on the part of the designer. So I would hope they would be well received.
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    The rules on how "Likes" would be handled were clear from the very start of the contest. And yet (based on the confusion in this and other threads) many people either didn't read them carefully enough or at all, despite the fact that others tried to clear up the confusion numerous times in the various discussions.

    It was even mentioned early on that the entries which appeared to be in the lead were not necessarily the ones actually winning (since it was possible for players to "like" more than one entry, and yet only the last 'like' given counted as a vote). At no point did we have any concrete proof that one particular hairstyle held the most votes, since we could never actually track the valid votes, we could only see "likes" under each entry (which, while useful as a vague measurement was by no means a guarantee).

    *How* the finalists were selected to begin with (e.g. not by players) is a valid complaint, but claims that SE screwed up by changing the voting rules as the last moment are false. Yes, SE *clarified* the voting rules towards the end (as many players seemed to be confused and in need in clarification), but the clarification of the rules did not change the actual rules, they just simply restated information that had already been available from the beginning. In this respect it is the players complaining who failed to properly comprehend (or read) the rules from the start. You have nobody to blame but yourselves on that one.
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    Honey Lullaby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    In this respect it is the players complaining who failed to properly comprehend (or read) the rules from the start. You have nobody to blame but yourselves on that one.
    I would like to state that I did only vote for one. Not sure if I made that apparent or not yet, but I'm still not happy about the confusion it caused the general public because that gets reflected in the results.
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    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    The rules on how "Likes" would be handled were clear from the very start of the contest.
    The simple fact that the "winners" appeared on the later pages shows the flaw in the design.

    Standard human behavior is to go "ooh, I like this one, and this one, and this one... *flips page* Oooh! This one is cute, this one is cute..."

    The simple fact that you *could* vote more than once, just in itself, shows the flawed nature of the system. Which is my biggest problem with it. And think they should learn from it next time. The forum software they're using doesn't prohibit them from using polls, they just chose not to for some reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    From the very start SE stated that only your last "like" given in each category (male/female) counted as a vote towards determining the winner. What was not 100% clear about that?

    Yes, it was possible to "like" more than one entry (as that's how the forum works), but used in conjunction with SE's simple instructions it should have been clear to anyone how to handle this.
    See:

    The mere fact that they had to clarify the rules at ALL shows that they weren't as clear as they should've been.

    You know why? Because the rule about likes was thrown into the damn description of how the Scarf of Wonders contest would work. They just threw it at the end of that description. The added clarification they put to the rule set should have been there day 1
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    Last edited by Nadirah; 09-15-2015 at 01:54 AM.

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    Tilla Eversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    The simple fact that the "winners" appeared on the later pages shows the flaw in the design.
    If this doesn't prove how flawed it is idk what will. I had a feeling this would happen...really sucks.
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