Lightning/Snow Event

[Noxifer]

And that changes how? The game doesn't "exist" (I'd say even then, 2.0 is a version upgrade of 1.0, just a very big one) but the items still do. So comparisons are just as valid. Same goes for 2.0 items like the Dalamud minion which is now locked out to people who buy Before Meteor right now. I wanted that item, but tough luck for me: I missed out. I'm not going to whine and make the billionth forum post begging SE.

You are arbitrary putting lines down when they are the same thing: Exclusive items that you got if you were playing at the time and did the requirement. If you didn't you missed out.

Tough luck, please stop acting like children who didn't get their candy.

I can't see how your name-calling applies to me. You accused someone of disagreeing with you only because they didn't have the items and were jealous. I replied to show that I disagree with you despite having the items in question. I don't even use most of them, because I don't like the way they look. That doesn't mean I can't sympathize with those who never had a chance to get them, or who were subscribed during the last reiteration of the event but never managed to get to level 46 in time.

Yes, 2.x is an upgrade of 1.x, but while you can log into the game and play without having bought 3.0, you can't log in with just a 1.x copy of the game (though all 1.x owners got a free upgrade to 2.x). The world as it was in 1.x is gone. The world as it was in 2.x is still there, as long as you haven't played through it all yet. Not all items from 1.x still exist; many of them (I can't say how many, since I'm not a legacy player) were 'ruined in the aftermath of the calamity'.

I don't count Dalamud minion as a 2.x item -- it's an item you got as a bonus for buying merchandise. Someone who wasn't subscribed could have bought said merchandise and gotten the minion code -- no way of utilizing it until they got a subscription, of course, but they could still have the code (i.e. the minion). It's comparable to pre-orders, though. If you bought the merchandise (or game) during a certain period, you got the bonus. (Note: I'm not trying to argue that you're wrong, since you're certainly entitled to your opinion, I'm merely explaining my opinion on it.)

Most event items have wound up on the Mogstation after their events occurred in 2.x. The only ones that haven't are the 'crossover events'. Does that mean people are automatically not allowed to ask the devs to bring the items back in some way? People have asked either for the event as it was, or to bring the items to Mogstation (or rather a copy of them, similar to how the xmas gear was a copy of the previous xmas gear, renamed and made unique/untradable), or put them in the Gold Saucer for MGP, or put them in the Gold Saucer together with event-themed Gates.

Then ask for similar events and items, not the exact same ones.

*cough* Read my previous paragraph, please. People have been asking for an opportunity to get the event rewards, whichever way the Devs decide to make it possible. Yes, some people have asked for the event to be run again, but just as many people (or more) have asked for alternative means. As for asking for 'similar items', I'd love that, but it doesn't help people who want that outfit.

[zosia]

*cough* Read my previous paragraph, please. People have been asking for an opportunity to get the event rewards, whichever way the Devs decide to make it possible. Yes, some people have asked for the event to be run again, but just as many people (or more) have asked for alternative means. As for asking for 'similar items', I'd love that, but it doesn't help people who want that outfit.

I missed out on the dalamud horn, why should other people get retired stuff? I got over not getting the dalamud horn, I am sure other people can get over not having those outfits.

[Mimilu]

I missed out on the dalamud horn, why should other people get retired stuff? I got over not getting the dalamud horn, I am sure other people can get over not having those outfits.

"I didn't get what I wanted, so no one else should either! D:<"

[zosia]

"I didn't get what I wanted, so no one else should either! D:<"

yeah, it's called reality, people miss out. The difference is children whine when they miss out on something and can't get their way.

Adults accept that there are consequences with time moving forward and act accordingly.

Do I really lament about the dalamud horn? Nope, it's just one of many cool looking head pieces in the game, I can find another. It simply serves as an example that things are not available indefinitely. I am not going to demand, like some infantile spoiled brat, that 1.0 players give up their unique 1.0 loot to sate some obsessive impulse to have everything in the game.

Check my post history, I did not even bother posting when the event came back, because I did not care. What I do care about is when SE decides to not bring the event back and people whine and complain about it. The FFXIV team is much smaller than other MMO's. I would rather them work on new events instead of revisiting old ones.

They are just pixels, get over it.

[Mimilu]

They are just pixels, get over it.

Says the person who just wrote a short essay about it.

Secondly, you say "it's called reality". You do realize, this is a video game, right? As in...you know...not reality? >o>()
This isn't some one-of-a-kind, handcrafted, artisan masterpiece, it's coding. While the actual creating the 3D model is time consuming, once it is made, it's pretty easy to plop it into the game whenever, where ever. They probably didn't circulate your horn into 2.x because it would mess with SMN's horned aesthetic and it's a very niche item.

[zosia]

Says the person who just wrote a short essay about it.Secondly, you say "it's called reality". You do realize, this is a video game, right? As in...you know...not reality? >o>()
This isn't some one-of-a-kind, handcrafted, artisan masterpiece, it's coding. While the actual creating the 3D model is time consuming, once it is made, it's pretty easy to plop it into the game whenever, where ever. They probably didn't circulate your horn into 2.x because it would mess with SMN's horned aesthetic and it's a very niche item.

You can still get the horn in 2.0 if you have the achievement, it's in circulation and any 1.0 toons who unlocked it can still use it. So, that whole aesthetic argument really holds no weight.

My longer post about raiding was about creating dialogue between raiders and non raiders, sorry if you felt like that was my personal statement of "to hell with everyone else, give me mah pixels." It was about a variety of motivations and challenges that face raiders. Pretty sure I said the reason I raid is for the sense of challenge and story, you should go back and read the post more carefully. If you're going to try and cross reference another post to help prove your point in this thread, at least bother to carefully read the source you're citing so you don't look like a presumptuous buffoon.

Don't you think it's presumptuous of you to assume it's just simple coding fix to put the item in the cash shop or to reintroduce the event?

Lastly, just because this is a fantasy world does not mean it's exempt from real life effects, such as time. Everything has a shelf life, even this game being on live servers has a shelf life. I am sorry if that concept escapes you.

[Mimilu]

You can still get the horn in 2.0 if you have the achievement, it's in circulation and any 1.0 toons who did get it can still use it. So, that whole aesthetic argument really holds no weight.

Let me rephrase then, it's not in circulation to the mass-public, must the few who played during 1.x. And it's still a niche item. >w>

My longer post about raiding was about creating dialogue between raiders and non raiders, sorry if you felt like that was my personal statement of "to hell with everyone else, give me mah pixels." It was about a variety of motivations. Pretty sure I said the reason I raid is for the sense of challenge and story, you should go back and read the post more carefully.

...What does raiding have to do with the FFXIII items coming back and/or going in the cash shop?

Don't you think it's presumptuous of you to assume it's just simple coding to plot the item in the cash shop or to reintroduce the event?

Lastly, just because this is a fantasy world does not mean it's exempt from real life effects, such as time. Everything has a shelf life, even this game being on live servers has a shelf life. I am sorry if that concept escapes you.

Except, they've already been putting things that have "passed their shelf life" into the cash shop. About 90% of the things in the cash shop have passed their shelf life, yet SE brought them back anyway. Is it really "presumptuous" to assume they'll do something they've already been doing?

[Felis]

"I didn't get what I wanted, so no one else should either! D:<"

"I didn't do the quest and sneaked behind lv80 enemies who can one-hit you if you did a wrong step, but I want the reward regardless" is how you sound.

They probably didn't circulate your horn into 2.x because it would mess with SMN's horned aesthetic and it's a very niche item.

Not really
They didn't bring it back as a reward because it was a part of a one-time storyline (the 7th umbral era story) only doable during 1.x and promoted as this since the beginning of that storyline.

[Felis]

Yes, 2.x is an upgrade of 1.x, but while you can log into the game and play without having bought 3.0, you can't log in with just a 1.x copy of the game (though all 1.x owners got a free upgrade to 2.x).

A complete new client with an own file folder I would not call an "upgrade", more a replacement.