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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    Oh yeah, I agree that putting on mogstation would be best solution, I was referring to re-introducing the event every single month cause that's the frequency somebody sees a "lightning/snow" and comes here to ask for the event again. We had it come back twice after initial event already totaling 3 times, this is already more often than the other events that have occurred. Personally I'd rather have a NEW event but I must be the minority in that aspect.

    it dosn't matter what item it is, people beg for any item that is not in the game, event or 1.0 it's just "gimmi, gimmi" this "give me lighting event back" pops up every so often usually ending with the people understanding or not accepting that they missed it and have to deal with it, or the quick solution of throwing money at anything you want instantly by putting it in mog station.

    Much like the legacy items, you missed them because you weren't here, Get over it, deal with it. i have neither and i am perfectly content with how exclusive works, its already a weird sign that they brought the event back 3 times already due to so much begging, it's just a matter if they will cave in a 4th time, the latest solution seems to be "throw it all in the cash shop"


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    I'd be fine if they keep this stuff exclusive as long as they give exclusive stuff to new players to compensate. I mean, you guys surely wouldn't complain about that right? Exclusive is exclusive after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    I'd be fine if they keep this stuff exclusive as long as they give exclusive stuff to new players to compensate. I mean, you guys surely wouldn't complain about that right? Exclusive is exclusive after all.
    id like you to elaborate the justification of your comment if you could enlighten me for a moment on how this is fair.
    things such as the lightning event and what not i believe the events in game should be exclusive only because i want something new rather than rehashed events over and over. im not opposed to the availability to the cash shop though. those who have them i look at it as its a show of long term support given to the game.
    to cut people out because they are not new just does not make sense to me. 'thanks for the support guys but you've been playing too long, get rekt'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    id like you to elaborate the justification of your comment if you could enlighten me for a moment on how this is fair.
    things such as the lightning event and what not i believe the events in game should be exclusive only because i want something new rather than rehashed events over and over. im not opposed to the availability to the cash shop though. those who have them i look at it as its a show of long term support given to the game.
    to cut people out because they are not new just does not make sense to me. 'thanks for the support guys but you've been playing too long, get rekt'
    I think he meant make more exclusive events so that players will have something exclusive that the next band of new players won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I think he meant make more exclusive events so that players will have something exclusive that the next band of new players won't.
    do we not get those already? the anniversary event had a minion. speculation is the next halloween event will have a mount that i doubt will be thrown into the cash shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    do we not get those already? the anniversary event had a minion. speculation is the next halloween event will have a mount that i doubt will be thrown into the cash shop
    Why do you doubt that will be thrown in the cash shop exactly? They've thrown everything in the cash shop from events so far, and that includes bardings. The minions will also likely be available in the cash shop come next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    I'd be fine if they keep this stuff exclusive as long as they give exclusive stuff to new players to compensate. I mean, you guys surely wouldn't complain about that right? Exclusive is exclusive after all.
    Don't you think you're making a trite point?

    Let me ask you, what is the difference between 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 preorder promotional items and the lightning promotional items? We don't demand preorder items be put into the mog station, what makes the lightning promo items so different? Both the preorder bonuses and the lightning event were meant to boost sales, what warrants the return of one set of promotional items over another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
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    It's fair because some players will never have an option to get some gear. The comment isn't made towards people who are at least proposing some kind of compromise, more towards the "Exclusive is exclusive so shut up" crowd. However, is it fair for some players who might not have even heard of the games existence to be barred from some set? I don't really see how it is, and I have a strong distaste for people who go "That's not fair" one moment then do a 180 and go "Life's not fair, get over it" in the same breath.


    Plus like.. Long term rewards already exist in the game, they're called Veteran rewards, and currently there's zero sign of implementing previous event sets into them as a "Long term support". That's without getting into the semantics of how "Long term support" being connected to event items is certainly not true.

    I'm not saying like.. Rehash the event yearly, I'm personally an advocate for new events (Holiday events staying within theme of course) each year, but I don't see how it'd be fair to cut them off from vanity sets. A similarly put "Thanks for the support, but you didn't start playing soon enough, lol" sorta deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I think he meant make more exclusive events so that players will have something exclusive that the next band of new players won't.
    Nah, I specifically meant some how introducing some gear set that's exclusive to characters who don't have the FF13 sets. It's to put up a comparison towards the "Exclusive is exclusive. You missed it, get over it" crowd. I don't actually advocate for it, but I'm curious on what people, specifically that previous mention crowd, would do if such a thing would be implemented.

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    I don't care for "It's exclusive!! Get over it!" arguments, they're dull and come from usually come from a either a "I've got my special thing, so why should I care if you can't have it?" perspective or a "I don't care about it, so why are you?" perspective. The point is, if SE somehow managed to give everyone who didn't have the current exclusive gear something entirely new (Maybe to garner some loyalty to new players who are upset about missive out on past event!), would everyone be so keen on the "Exclusive is exclusive, get over it" arguments?

    Basically nothing is different about them lol, and honestly I don't see why the preorder items aren't at least on the mogstation, and that's speaking as someone who could've gotten the Baron's stuff on three different accounts if I had more than one account to give it to (Long and awkward story lol). The event's occurred twice now into the games lifespan, if not introducing the event over again, there should be some way for new players to get it as well. For preorder items, why not introduce a craftable version that takes a crap ton of rare items that'd be a pain in the butt to all gather up and have like a "Forged" bit added to the name to still give a genuine "I preordered it!" feel to the original versions. For the Lightning event items, why not slap them onto the mogstation and just push them on some in game vendor during one of the year's various events?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    I don't care for "It's exclusive!! Get over it!" arguments, they're dull and come from usually come from a either a "I've got myspecial thing, so why should I care if you can't have it?" perspective or a "I don't care about it, so why are you?" perspective. The point is, if SE somehow managed to give everyone who didn't have the current exclusive gear something entirely new (Maybe to garner some loyalty to new players who are upset about missive out on past event!), would everyone be so keen on the "Exclusive is exclusive, get over it" arguments?

    Basically nothing is different about them lol, and honestly I don't see why the preorder items aren't at least on the mogstation, and that's speaking as someone who could've gotten the Baron's stuff on three different accounts if I had more than one account to give it to (Long and awkward story lol). The event's occurred twice now into the games lifespan, if not introducing the event over again, there should be some way for new players to get it as well. For preorder items, why not introduce a craftable version that takes a crap ton of rare items that'd be a pain in the butt to all gather up and have like a "Forged" bit added to the name to still give a genuine "I preordered it!" feel to the original versions. For the Lightning event items, why not slap them onto the mogstation and just push them on some in game vendor during one of the year's various events?
    Which I have explained is not my position. I rather SE do something new with the lightning theme items than rehashing the same old stuff. How about new lightning themed gear that builds off of the old sets? I much rather SE spend time and effort on implementing stuff all players, new and old, can enjoy.

    Just rehashing the event every year is boring. Also, there is no reason to promote ff13 anymore. Putting the items in the cash shop undermines the grinding people did for the items, it's essentially pay to win. It sucked waiting around for fates to pop, and there were more than your average holiday event grind. It's not like there is an "on/off" switch at someone's desk to put these events back in the game.

    It's better to have the dev team put effort into new events and new rewards than having to pander to every new player that missed out on a promo that has served it's purpose. Sheesh, the entitlement with people on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    it's essentially pay to win.
    A-... Are you serious? I cannot take you seriously when you say things like that.

    Also, do you honestly believe that reimplementing an event or throwing the event items on the cash shop takes even a fraction of the time it would take to implement new gear with an event to go along with it? No, it wouldn't. There will be a reason to promote FF13 whenever the 3rd parts for PC rolls around, but regardless of that, putting it up on the cash shop would practically be "free money" for them.
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