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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    If you really think they will improve the graphics just by dropping a console then you should really stop holding your breath else you'll faint. People had been demanding this with XI for literal years and Square never did and probably never will. WoW is doing a graphical upgrade but that's more to catch up with games like XIV and it's only on PC. Sure, PS3 players had a chance (it ended in May) to upgrade but you talk like everyone has a PS4 now, a pretty gross assumption there.
    WoW's improved its engine significantly over the years (includings the visuals of course) to compete with MMOs as they came and died out. Do you honestly believe the game would have survived if it still looked like what it did back in Vanilla, and things like animations and model quality didn't improve quite a bit? The reason they couldn't improve FFXI significantly was due to the PS2, but back when FFXI was released the PS2 was still in its prime, this isn't, and was never the case with the PS3.

    As Yoshida stated, they want to compete with things like Everquest Next and all future MMOs, I don't know if you've ever seen that but the physics and visuals are very nice, and that was back in 2013. WoW is no longer the competitor it used to be, and I can see it dying down if Legion is flop like WoD. The PS3 was dead on the release of FFXIV (or rather, very outdated). The parts it's holding the game is quite clear, raids like CT and ST have to be separated with loading screens, areas are separated and isn't just one seamless world, and as the interview stated earlier, they can't have incredibly large scale FATEs (this would also limit their boss design in raids, dungeons and trials).

    Yoshida has said he wants the game to last 10 years, and keeping PS3 around isn't the way to achieve that. By the time 4.0 rolls around it'll probably be 2017, and the PS3 will be 10 years old. No one should expect 10 year old hardware to keep being supported then, nor should they demand stifling the game because they can't move past decade old technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    WoW's improved its engine significantly over the years (includings the visuals of course) to compete with MMOs as they came and died out. Do you honestly believe the game would have survived if it still looked like what it did back in Vanilla, and things like animations and model quality didn't improve quite a bit? The reason they couldn't improve FFXI significantly was due to the PS2, but back when FFXI was released the PS2 was still in its prime, this isn't, and was never the case with the PS3.
    It was almost 10 years before WoWs races got graphic and animation updates. All of the old wow content looks exactly the way it did before... they have added things like new lighting effects and water/lava effects.

    FFXIV can't be around for 10 years but FFXI managed to do exactly that with the PS2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocheKat View Post
    It was almost 10 years before WoWs races got graphic and animation updates. All of the old wow content looks exactly the way it did before... they have added things like new lighting effects and water/lava effects.

    FFXIV can't be around for 10 years but FFXI managed to do exactly that with the PS2.
    WoW's visuals improved with every expansion starting from Cataclysm (well before then, but that was when the most major graphic improvements were made, if you compare WoD's visuals to something from Vanilla to WoD you'll notice a major difference. I'm not just talking about their races, but monsters, environments, raids, dungeons, the entire picture. Races are but a small part in that overall. There's a hugely apparent difference in graphics when traveling from old content to new content, which can be slightly jarring but it works due to its cartoony visuals.

    FFXI lasted 10 years sure (losing a lot of its player base as it aged as things go) but by the time the PS3 was released and actually sold a decent amount (it had a very rough start if you can't remember) FFXI was 5-6 years old. This isn't the case with FFXIV as I stated in my posted, but you seemed to ignore that so I expect you to do the same again here.
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