How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

EDIT: in A1S, my 2nd B4B usually comes before .5 shows up, and i tend to just use all the IR/BOTD/jump/spineshatter on the original, hold the B4B and LS, and elusive jump to the .5, then B4B on the .5

No no no bad.

You absolutely need to hit the second B4B when it comes up. Stay glued to that boss. You'll use it right after your CT combo (before/after Phleb) if you're doing the rotation right. You want to stay on the main oppressor until your B4B falls off and then Elusive to 0.5. Alternatively (what I sometimes will do) you can pop B4B into HT>CT on main > elusive > CT on 0.5 before B4B drops. Either way sorta works, but I think staying on main oppressor and getting your full 9 uninterrupted gcds is better.

This link is from my best parse with my old static (I'm on main oppressor with my new one, I was on 0.5 with my old), taken from where my second B4B starts. You can see how I get my dots up on the main oppressor at the end of B4B (it dies just after CT) before hopping to 0.5.


As for why this is important, though, you need to look at how many B4B casts you're gonna get.

Each full rotation is ~2 minutes long, including the ~30s downtime of the jump. So, after the first jump, you'll only get 1 b4b per jump, period. The second will come back at the bitter end if you use it right at the start, not enough time to get anything out of it.

However, the opening phase (up until jump 1) is ~3 minutes long. 3 minutes is ~180 seconds. If you use B4B at the start and then on cooldown, you'll use it at (approximately) 0, 80, and 160. If you hold it those extra 10-15s, you'll use it at 0, 95, 175. Suddenly the third one either doesn't exist or is super ineffective. As such, you *need* to keep it on cooldown for the pre-jump phase so you can get 3. You'll get 1 per jump from then on anyway. This ensures 4 in 1 jump, 5 in 2 jump, and 6 in 3 jump, rather than 3, 4, and 5. That's a significant change.

[MiniTyra]

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That's so pretty. A lot better than mine, tbh.

I'd like to have an unofficial Dragoon companion app :3

So, a Dragoon chat app, along with gear calculation tools and push notifications would be sick.

[Zymeth]

So for anyone who wants to mess around with it, you can check it out here!

It's a .xlsm - macro-enabled excel file. You need to enable macros if you want it to work as best as it can. I'll ofc be updating it for 3.2 and uploading a better version then. This is more like a beta lol.

Your Excel-Tool is really cool and well made.
Would you reveal me the password to unlock the xlsm to actually see the math behind your DPS calculation, I would love to compare it to my calculations to get a better insight in the formulas. I guess you put a lot effort in it and I would understand if you wont tell me the password because of copyright.

[whiskeybravo]

Why did monk get a single target and aoe dps boost... FC mate remarked last night, "monk is selfish dps".

I'd say so.. /confused

So, a Dragoon chat app, along with gear calculation tools and push notifications would be sick.

And a rotation mini-game to train newbie dragoons >.>

Would be sweet, I don't think it's something I could handle tho. Certainly not alone lol

[MiniTyra]

Your Excel-Tool is really cool and well made.
Would you reveal me the password to unlock the xlsm to actually see the math behind your DPS calculation, I would love to compare it to my calculations to get a better insight in the formulas. I guess you put a lot effort in it and I would understand if you wont tell me the password because of copyright.

The math is all on the front page of this post or on my blog lol

https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/damag...her-mechanics/

Like, it's not hard. Make a spreadsheet with the GCDs and oCDs. Calculate the PPS. Put the PPS in the "Potency" value of the formula. Bam, there's your expected DPS.

[PheonixCain]

No no no bad.

You absolutely need to hit the second B4B when it comes up. Stay glued to that boss. You'll use it right after your CT combo (before/after Phleb) if you're doing the rotation right. You want to stay on the main oppressor until your B4B falls off and then Elusive to 0.5. Alternatively (what I sometimes will do) you can pop B4B into HT>CT on main > elusive > CT on 0.5 before B4B drops. Either way sorta works, but I think staying on main oppressor and getting your full 9 uninterrupted gcds is better.

make sense to me, but then the 1.0 and .5 would end up having at least 10% of hp gap, but i guess that's easy to handle, i will definitely try that if i ever have a chance to run A1S (cuz nobody needs loots from A1S and A2S, we are skipping to A3S weekly basic for months now), but maybe not only just A1S, this cud open my mind for what's coming next too, thx

btw, i wiped the group several times in A3S last night by using lock on target in some very inappropriate timing lol, but trimming down my crossbar definitely helps me see things a lot more clear during lock on

[Ninjah2r]

so no changes to drg, while mnk has HF potency increased and dot time for demolish too. I mean my sub is a mnk, but drg at heart. se y u do dis ;c

[DarkerOrange]

I know it sucks when one class gets buffed and yours doesn't but IMO, DRGs are in a very good place right now, so they don't really need buffs.

[Ninjah2r]

I'd still be happy if they reduced dragonfire dive's cd, cause we can't do much during mobpulls. While running expert I can only do HT-RoT or DS till tp runs out, and need to time invig at a good point too.

[PheonixCain]

everyone gets something, when Drg gets nothing! NOTHUNG!!