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  1. #1781
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I guess. 2.x rotation was perfect because [HT-CT-FT-HT-FT-CT-repeat] was perfect. I remember every time I was reapplying HT there was 2s left so it was just about to fall off but enough duration left such that the fresh HT was still buffed by the old HT. Dis and Chaos were the same thing, roughly 3 seconds left when you were about to reapply. It was always a tight squeeze but it felt good when you pulled it off. Also double FT in a single B4B was awesome because it took perfect timing to pull off.

    2.x DRG was fun
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  2. #1782
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    Eyvhokan's Avatar
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    Eyvhokan Poseidal
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    Shiva
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    Miner Lv 70
    Is there an optimum skill speed for DRG at the moment?
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  3. #1783
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    Erys's Avatar
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Zodiark
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eyvhokan View Post
    Is there an optimum skill speed for DRG at the moment?
    500 or less. Basically, be nude x'D
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  4. #1784
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    Khel Pyke
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
    500 or less. Basically, be nude x'D
    Or wear Sam gear. Don't they end up with like 700 SS? As opposed to dragoon with its 1500-1600 SS. We didn't need all that Crit and direct hit anyway, we may pull agro and die robbing the raid of all of our buffs that "greatly increase the raid's damage".

    not that I'm bitter
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  5. #1785
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I think SE gave us high SS to make up for the fact that we have no haste buff like NIN SAM MNK do. *shrug*
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  6. #1786
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    Erys's Avatar
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Zodiark
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I just tried this tonight with my static.

    We can hit a dummy to get our 4 eyes and enter the duty and do a Nastrond opener. So you need to go through a full rotation until you get 4 eyes and both Jump and SSD are on cd. Also your AST should draw a second balance as close to your refresh hits as possible and then your party leader has to queue as you do so. Playing on ps4 and on wifi, the load time allowed me to start with 10-15s on botd.

    Any ideas on how much we would gain in terms of dps if this is a thing?
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    Last edited by Erys; 07-11-2017 at 06:29 AM.

  7. #1787
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Damage of additional nastronds / encounter length. Assuming they are indeed additional, of course.

    It'd be more, it'd be real, it'd... not be a lot. Let's say less than 2% improvement on a blazing fast ~6m raid that goes from 8 to 11 Nastronds that way (assuming such is possible), less if it's slower than that. Is 1% the sort of ballpark we bandy about all the time in these DPS forums? Yes, that would be more than what is usually discussed. Is the effort worth 1%? Well....
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  8. #1788
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    Vlado Vandamme
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 61
    So i hadn't played since just before HW release. I recently hit 60 and wrapped up most of HW. Class felt off, lower DPS than I remember, rotation kind of clunky. Not at all like I remember. I came to the forums to check out if I was missing some major components in my play. After reading the last 10 pages of this thread glad to know I'm not alone in thinking the class is not what it really should be. Seriously considering picking BRD back up or leveling a tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
    I just tried this tonight with my static.

    ...

    Any ideas on how much we would gain in terms of dps if this is a thing?


    Also, a class is clearly not right if a serious consideration becomes "pre loading" outside of a duty...
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  9. #1789
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlado View Post
    So i hadn't played since just before HW release. I recently hit 60 and wrapped up most of HW. Class felt off, lower DPS than I remember, rotation kind of clunky. Not at all like I remember.
    Because dragoon is effectively incomplete below 70. 3.x dragoon was gutted, there's 2.x dragoon and a really awkward step between it and 4.0 dragoon.
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  10. #1790
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    What melds are you guys using on the omega nm gear? I'm going full crit atm.
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    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc3BCufssXDNbA9FSajCyrQ

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