How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Jonnycbad]

Also, when LotD ends, I'm pretty sure Geirskogul is nearly ready. Even though they "share a recast", Geirskogul's timer keeps ticking down behind the scenes. So after 30s of LotD when you revert back to BotD, Geirskogul has 5s left. Also you can store any eyes from lotD to BotD, which shortens the time till your next LotD. In essence, the time between subsequent LotD phases is shorter than the time it takes to build up to your very first LotD from your opener.


Given its long recast, I wish Dragonfire Dive gave us Dive Ready.

[Kicero]

Also, when LotD ends, I'm pretty sure Geirskogul is nearly ready. Even though they "share a recast", Geirskogul's timer keeps ticking down behind the scenes. So after 30s of LotD when you revert back to BotD, Geirskogul has 5s left. Also you can store any eyes from lotD to BotD, which shortens the time till your next LotD. In essence, the time between subsequent LotD phases is shorter than the time it takes to build up to your very first LotD from your opener.


Given its long recast, I wish Dragonfire Dive gave us Dive Ready.

I agree with DFD. Would be nice if Dragon Sight gave us eye gauges, too.

[Shamox]

No it's not.
On a ~2 minutes phase you'll have 5 jumps and 3 Spineshatter Dive assuming you used both in your opener.
With this logic you might get your 2nd Lotd a little bit sooner but the 3rd one is gonna take more than 1 min to be ready, should take at least 1min30 which is definitely more than the first one.

Dragon sight giving dive ready would be broken.

[karionsiand]

I see a problem.... if you got your first Life of the Dragoon at second 60 but you use B4B after second GCD.... you will have about sec 62 your LotD... and it will remain till maybe sec 92... so Only last nastrond will be covered by B4B.

If you delay a bit your LotD to about sec 70-75 you will can to use 2 nastronds with BFB + other oGCDs like Spineshatter again. Ok this will delay your second LotD... but at second LotD it will happen about 130 and will fit again with B4B and Dragon sight

[Erys]

I see a problem.... if you got your first Life of the Dragoon at second 60 but you use B4B after second GCD.... you will have about sec 62 your LotD... and it will remain till maybe sec 92... so Only last nastrond will be covered by B4B.

If you delay a bit your LotD to about sec 70-75 you will can to use 2 nastronds with BFB + other oGCDs like Spineshatter again. Ok this will delay your second LotD... but at second LotD it will happen about 130 and will fit again with B4B and Dragon sight

Geirskogul's CD is 35s. We are using it after the 4th hit in the opener (12s into the fight). THe next use will be at 47 seconds and the last one at 82 seconds. We will have blood for blood for all three Nastronds, don't worry.

[HaelseMikiro]

Geirskogul's CD is 35s. We are using it after the 4th hit in the opener (12s into the fight). THe next use will be at 47 seconds and the last one at 82 seconds. We will have blood for blood for all three Nastronds, don't worry.

You'll never have B4B for all 3 Nastronds. It's 3 skills with a 10 second cooldown, and a 20 second buff window. If you had 20.1 seconds and lived next door to the data centers, maybe you could do it. More than likely, when you double weave B4B and Nastrond #1, you'll get that thing that summoners get when they hit Bane right after casting Bio 1. The server will register the damage from Nastrond before B4B actually applies to you. and you'll probably end up losing B4B fractions of a second before Nastrond #3.
Best way to do it (IMO) would be ensuring you have B4B for the GK going in to Lotd + Nastrond #1&2, or use it for Nastrond #2&3 + post LotD GK.

[Erys]

True

I shouldn't have come out of the bed today, been sloppy all day long.
Somehow I was thinking b4b was 30s. Wishful thinking I guess x'D

[Helltail]

Still a work in progress, but I have a few ideas in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...otation_ideas/

Based on preliminary figures of course, anything could change at launch.

[Thalia_Minokovich]

Still a work in progress, but I have a few ideas in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...otation_ideas/

Based on preliminary figures of course, anything could change at launch.

Great work, Helltail. Especially with the rotation sequence graph.

Quietly awaiting Stormblood changes on DRG.

[Lohen]

Can't say anything about dragoon at level 70, but at level 60, the dps is considerably lower. I invite people to try out the a12s dummy and compare their times before 4.0.

You will not like the result.