How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[dark494]

Edit: Go with this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z38R. Swap out for proto ultima ring and necklace, switch to alex feet, and restat relic some more.

Old stuff below:

I'll take a stab at it. tl;dr, I believe the proto ultima ring is ever so slightly better than the shire ring, if I'm going off the relic BiS set (http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z4GK) (http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/YT92) Also ariyala isn't updated yet.

Shire Ring: 22.419

Ultima Ring: 23.931

2 things I want to point out:

• I'm using a weight 0.290 for Crit, according to Dervy's estimate on its new weight due to the higher average crit baseline with the relic set (which isn't reflected on the front page of this thread).
• Changing to the ultima ring in place of the shire ring is an increase of 17 ss. So there are a few adjustments that went into calculating the weight of the ultima ring: Removing the extra 3 ss from the relic and putting it back into det (crit ends up maxed at 275 with just acc restats), and subtracting the extra 14 ss from the weight that is wasted since it's over the 625 ss tier.

So the ultima ring looks like this:

59 ss - 10.03
54 crit - 15.66
=25.69
-2.38 (extra 14 ss)
+.621 (restat 3 ss to 3 det in the relic)
=23.931

So yeah, slightly better. I believe. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z4GP

What I don't know is if the rest of the ultima accessories open up other avenues of gear sets, or if there's a way to bring that SS back down. I'm too tired to look more into that right now.

[Umbrax]

Go with this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z38R

Ariyala relic stat allocation is odd atm, as it usually is, so if you want 3 different stats on it, the maximum infused stats is 283/285

The set you linked, if I'm not wrong would be as follows: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z4UI = 3471.686

As we can only get 1 jewel per week, I'm using this so far: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z4TR = 3471.781

As you can see, the set I'm using is wasting way too much skill speed and I'm still in the 2.39 tier

So even tho the set you linked with the corrected relic stats is lower in ariyala (super tight difference), it's actually higher because you are gaining 21 determination (4,347) vs 8 crit (2,232)

I'm looking forward to go for it next week if we don't discover something better, GJ!

[dark494]

Yeah, 283/284 stats is what you can achieve. This is the lazy set I'm currently using so I'm not burning food for everything that requires 699 acc, like all the bird farming I'm still doing. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Z59D

[MarinDoDouce]

Hello,

My dragoon is my only job, and I try to have the best stuff, as everyone. But I don't know how to choose between different gears. For example for feet, I have :
+ Prototype Alexandrian Sollerets : IL 250 / STR 89 / ACCU 72 / VIT 98 / CRIT 51
+ Shire Pathfinder Sollerets : IL 260 / STR 96 / CRIT 76 / VIT 107 / SS 53
+ Diabolic Sabaton of Maiming : IL 260 / STR 96 / ACCU 76 / VIT 107 / DET 51

I know that STR is very important, as CRIT and DET. So how can I make a choice ?
Thanks for advices

[aleph_null]

Hello,

My dragoon is my only job, and I try to have the best stuff, as everyone. But I don't know how to choose between different gears. For example for feet, I have :
+ Prototype Alexandrian Sollerets : IL 250 / STR 89 / ACCU 72 / VIT 98 / CRIT 51
+ Shire Pathfinder Sollerets : IL 260 / STR 96 / CRIT 76 / VIT 107 / SS 53
+ Diabolic Sabaton of Maiming : IL 260 / STR 96 / ACCU 76 / VIT 107 / DET 51

I know that STR is very important, as CRIT and DET. So how can I make a choice ?
Thanks for advices

There's this thing called "stat weight" which pretty much gives a value for crit/det/sks in terms of str. Check Dervy's site for details: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/

Then you can use Ariyala's website (http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/DRG) and click on the BiS solver to show stat weights for every piece.

[MarinDoDouce]

Thanks , its exactly what i needed.

[Sentinillia]

snip

It's 99% of the time the best to go with the piece with the highest STR value. There are some cases where a piece of gear will be loaded with enough bad stats for a lower ilevel item to be better but this is rare.
If you don't feel like consulting a website whenever you're choosing a piece of gear (which you should, mind you, if you want the most out of your resources) there's a simplified priority list of stats:

ACC(up to 699)>STR>CRIT>DET>SKSP

Looking at stat-weight alone for a single piece of gear can be deceiving as it doesn't account for accuracy and massive spikes/drops in skill speed which can make it worse that it looks on paper. Not having enough accuracy makes all your other stats worth less since you aren't actually hitting your target and having too much or too little of skill speed can mess up your rotation big time. Linking your full gear set would be helpful when looking for gear-related advice.