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  1. #1251
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    xSirius's Avatar
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    Ilarnja Elasir
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    Lich
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Hey Guys,

    is anyone of you guys using the way Jump works against knockbacks?

    It happend to me a few times in a8s that I miss a 4th-positional because of the vortexer-knockback in p2 because I have to move to the wall, but I'm getting jump up shortly before the knockback and was wondering how hard the timing would be to dodge the knockback with jump. Anyone got experience with this and can give a few pointers before I start screwing with my static by trying it out (and failing)? xD

    Cheers
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  3. #1252
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    CookieMonsta's Avatar
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by xSirius View Post
    Hey Guys,

    is anyone of you guys using the way Jump works against knockbacks?

    It happend to me a few times in a8s that I miss a 4th-positional because of the vortexer-knockback in p2 because I have to move to the wall, but I'm getting jump up shortly before the knockback and was wondering how hard the timing would be to dodge the knockback with jump. Anyone got experience with this and can give a few pointers before I start screwing with my static by trying it out (and failing)? xD

    Cheers
    Ahhh the jump cheese. This was golden in A3S, the only problem is its mildly related to latency and the polsitional update system.
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  4. #1253
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    xSirius's Avatar
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    Ilarnja Elasir
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    Lich
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Guess I'll just have to try it out then and safe my SSD for the worst case^^
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  5. #1254
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    Daweism's Avatar
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    Kurama Uchiha
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Is there a PvP Dragoon guide? I keep getting rekt.
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  6. #1255
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MiryaZan View Post
    Just wondering if anyone could share their hotbar layouts and tips?
    My personal, and objectively superior setup. /sarcasm
    Honestly just apply logic and play with the setup that suits and makes sense to you. I try to have my bars in a pattern that somewhat makes sense but I also have a lot of exceptions to that rule due to nothing else but personal preference for reasons I can't explain. I have my main combos bound to 1234 and shift + 1234 because those are the abilities that get used most often. E is for FaC/Wheel because it makes sense to me to have them on the same button. Q is for Life Surge and potion because. Most OGCDs I have on my mouse (F# keys in the picture) because most movement happens between GCDs and then I can use all of my left hand for movement. Buffs are also on mouse + Shift. Lastly, things that are on 123+Alt are things that don't get used often (relatively) and I didn't find any other place for.

    This probably doesn't help you or anyone else at all, but the point is that you should just do you. There is no hotbar BiS.
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  7. #1256
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    FyrmurlFloerasksyn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Roegadyn Masterrace
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Is the advanced opener on the first page still good?
    H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+BOTD] -> DI -> [DRAC-POT] -> CT -> [PS+ LEGS] -> 4TH -> [JUMP] -> P -> [SSD] -> TT -> [DFD] -> VP -> [LIFES + GK] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat
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  8. #1257
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    jack891's Avatar
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    Character
    Mirajane Skysong
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Is the advanced opener on the first page still good?
    H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+BOTD] -> DI -> [DRAC-POT] -> CT -> [PS+ LEGS] -> 4TH -> [JUMP] -> P -> [SSD] -> TT -> [DFD] -> VP -> [LIFES + GK] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat
    It hasnt been updated but there is a slight change in the opener, your big buffs have swapped round a little
    H > [BL+IR] > ID > [BOTD+B4B] > rest is the same
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  9. #1258
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Is the advanced opener on the first page still good?
    H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+BOTD] -> DI -> [DRAC-POT] -> CT -> [PS+ LEGS] -> 4TH -> [JUMP] -> P -> [SSD] -> TT -> [DFD] -> VP -> [LIFES + GK] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat
    Short answer: Yes.

    Longer answer: There are openers that are a little more optimized for opener DPS and you may have to adjust your opener slightly in a given encounter, but yes that opener still works mighty fine. If I recall correctly swapping IR and B4b in that opener gives you slightly more PPS since your B4b will extend to HT which is more potency than ID.
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  10. #1259
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    MikeWW's Avatar
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    Hue Hue
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 70
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but while leveling to 60, does it make sense to skip wheeling thrust quest at 58? It seems to me that the skill is simply bad, because it does identical damage to fang&claw, but once you get it, whether you get fang&claw or wheeling thrust becomes a coin toss and you must adjust your positioning after each coin toss. Before you get wheeling thrust, you get fang&claw 100% of the time, meaning you don't have to reposition due to any coin toss.

    Is there anything wrong with my reasoning?

    If not, I am actually thinking about skipping both level 58 and 60 skill quests because I don't want to suffer wheeling thrust.
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  11. #1260
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    Zenji's Avatar
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    Zenji Akemi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Dude, you need gierskogul lol
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